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Old 05-22-2003, 08:48 AM
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I'm having trouble converting from auto to toploader. It is a older kit that uses mustangII/pinto parts and has a small block ford. I would like to use a pull type clutch with a toploader. I have the transmission, pedals, cable shifter, everything but a bellhousing. Is there a certain car that used a pull type clutch with a toploader bolt patern, or is there a way to modify an aluminum belhousing to work with a pull type clutch? I really did not want to run a HEAVY steel safety belhousing, i don't plan on doing any stupidly high rpm launches.
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All you need to do is go to one of the savages outside of town and ask for a bell housing and clutch fork from a late model Mustang or Capri (83-up). I know these all use the pull type clutch forks. Your engine has a boss on the drivers side for the clutch cable hardware. Probably for around $100 you should have everything you need.

However, going with the Toploader you need to be sure you are geared correctly for highway driving. What are the numbers on the aluminium tag on your transmission eg: "RUG AH" etc.?

This should be a good project for this weekend.

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thanks for the help. Yeah it is a toploader, not a rug transmission. I had on of those things in a pickup, they suck.
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TOPLOADER IDENTIFICATION

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Tag #
Year Vehicle Engine Ratio Comments
HEH-A 1964 Mustang 260 wide 25-spline
HEH-B 1964 Meteor, Fairlane 289-2V wide 28-spline
HEH-C 1964 Mustang 289 wide 25-spline
HEH-D 1964 Galaxie 390 close 28-spline
HEH-E 1964 Meteor, Fairlane,
Sunbeam Tiger 289-4V close 25-1/2" trans
28-spline
HEH-G 1964 Mustang 260, 289 wide 25-spline
HEH-H 1964 Galaxie 427 close 28-spline
HEH-J 1965 Galaxie 390 close 28-spline
HEH-L 1964 Fairlane 289 wide 25-1/2" trans
28-spline
HEH-M 1964 Falcon 289-2V wide 25-spline
HEH-N 1965 Fairlane 289 close 25-1/2" trans
28-spline
HEH-P 1964 Mustang 289 wide 25-spline
8/20/64 to 12/30/64
HEH-R 1965 Galaxie 427 close 28-spline
HEH-S 1964 Mustang 289 close Before 8/20/64
HEH-T 1964 Mustang 289 close From 8/20/64 to 10/1/64
HEH-AM 1966 Galaxie 427 close 31-spline
HEH-AR 1966 Fairlane 390 wide 28-spline
HEH-BL 1965 Galaxie 390 close 28-spline
HEH-BN 1965 Fairlane 289 wide After 12/1/64
HEH-BP 1964 Falcon 289 wide From 10/1/64 to 2/1/65
HEH-BR 1965 Mustang 260, 289 wide From 12/30/64 to 2/1/65
HEH-BS 1965 Falcon 289 wide From 2/1/65
HEH-BT 1965 Mustang 289 close From 2/1/65
HEH-BV 1966 Fairlane, Falcon 289 wide 28-spline
HEH-BW 1966 Mustang 289 wide 28-spline
HEH-BX 1965 Mustang 289, 289K close From 10/1/64
HEH-CF 1965 TVR, Griffit 289 wide 25-1/2" trans
HEH-CB 1965 Galaxie 427 close 28-spline
HEH-BY 1965 AC Cobra 427 close 28-spline
HEH-CC 1965/66 Galaxie 390 wide 28-spline
HEH-CG 1966 Galaxie 428 close 31-spline
HEH-CJ 1967 Fairlane 427 close 31-spline
HEH-CL 1966 Fairlane 390 GT wide 28-spline
RUG-A 1967 Mustang 390 wide 28-spline
RUG-A1 1967 Galaxie 390 wide 28-spline
RUG-AD 1968 Mustang 390 close 28-spline
RUG-AD1 1969 Mustang 390 close 28-spline
RUG-AE 1968 Mustang 428 close 31-spline
RUG-AE1 1968-69 Mustang, Cougar 428 close 31-spline
RUG-AE2 1969 Mustang 428, 429 close 31-spline
RUG-AG 1969 Mustang 302, 351 close 28-spline
RUG-AH 1969 Fairlane 351 close 28-spline
RUG-AJ 1969 Fairlane 428 close 31-spline
RUG-AK 1969 Fairlane 351 close 31-spline
RUG-AL 1969 Fairlane 390 close 28-spline
RUG-AR 1970 Fairlane 351 both 28-spline
RUG-AR1 1970 Fairlane 351 wide 28-spline
RUG-AS 1970 Fairlane 351 close 31-spline
RUG-AS1 1970 Fairlane 351 close 28-spline
RUG-AT 1970 Fairlane 351 close 28-spline
RUG-AT1 1970 Fairlane 351 close 28-spline
RUG-AU 1970 Fairlane 429 close 31-spline
RUG-AU1 1970 Torino 429 close 31-spline
RUG-AU1 1971 Torino 429 close 31-spline
RUG-AV 1970 Mustang 302, 351 wide 28-spline
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It is a toploader out of a 66 fairlane with a 2.78 low, I had already looked that up before. But that really doesn't matter because I know every one of the toploaders on your list are 1 to 1 high (4th) so they will all be "geared correctly for highway". With a 1 to 1 high like almost all transmissions that are not an overdrive you "gear correctly for the highway" with your rear end gears. I do have some of the overdrive toploaders also and I am not going to use them because the jump between gears is very big. Thanks for your help with the bellhousing though.
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