Help Tilton Hydraulic Bearing Info

priobe · #1 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 07:34 AM

Hello All,

I would like to know if anyone is using a Tilton Hydraulic Bearing with a CenterForce Lighten Flywheel for a Toploader.

I would like to Verify if I ordered the right Part # for my Hydraulic Bearing. I am about to put the body on and would like to see if I made my calulation correctly. The Part # I purchased was 61-601, but the charts from Tilton do not show it being for a Toploader.

Can someone reply back with a simular set or that can help me on this.

Thanks

Mike Simard · #2 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 08:09 AM

61-601 is the hydraulic bearing itself, a fairly universal one. Next you need to get the 'base' it goes onto, for the 600 series its a piece that replaces the snout of your transmission and the 61-601 threads onto that.

priobe · #3 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 08:16 AM

Mike,

I order the base as well which is the 1 for the Toploader. I was just puzzled as to why my measurement suggest this bearing. I wanted to see if other have run into a simular problem.

Steve Riley · #4 (**permalink**) 04-17-2006, 06:39 PM

I put one of these on my E-M and wish I would have stuck with a standard clutch throw-out. What a pain.
Steve

priobe · #5 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 07:11 AM

Steve,

Are you still running the hydraulic or did you switch it out? What problems did you have ?

Wayne Maybury · #6 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 07:40 AM

I installed a Tilton hydraulic throw out bearing and I have not had any difficulties at all. I followed the instructions for the initial setup, installed it and basically never touched it since. I am running a 351W, toploader, and a Ford Motorsport clutch and flywheel all inside a Lakewood bellhousing. Routing the hydraulic lines is a bit of a pain when installing the tranny, but other than that it is a great setup.

One thing I did was to run a permanent bleeder line so that I could bleed the system with everything in place, if necessary.

Wayne

priobe · #7 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 07:45 AM

Thanks Wayne,

Did have to install a pedal stop?
Or were you able to make the adjustments with out it.

Wayne Maybury · #8 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 11:19 AM

No pedal stop. I am using the triple Tilton master cylinder setup, one for the clutch, one for the front brakes, and the third for the rear brakes.

As I said ealier, I set up the throw out bearing according to the installation directions, installed the transmission, bled the air out, and have not touched it since. I did remove the transmission once but that had nothing to do with the throw out bearing. The biggest problem I had was feeding the hydraulic hoses out of the Lakewood bellhousing as there is not much room to work.

I think that this is a very good option to either a mechanical or traditional hydraulic clutch system. No rods, levers, or slave cylinders to worry about.

Wayne

priobe · #9 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 11:51 AM

Thanks for the feed Wayne

cdnus · #10 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 05:37 PM

Wayne,
What size clutch did you use?
I have the same setup & I am having problems establishing the proper clearance with a 11" clutch. there is not enough adjustment in the bearing to obtain any allowance for disc wear.
I understand the 10.5" clutch is shorter than the 11" maybe that is my solution.
Thanks
Craig

Steve Riley · #11 (**permalink**) 04-18-2006, 06:41 PM

Priobe,
I started out with the Tilton unit and wasn't replacing anything. Seems to work well but the installation was a real pain to get it mounted and have the necessary clearance to the plate.
It was funny, not long thereafter I was watching American Hot Rod and saw them install the exact same unit on one of their cars as I had. They had to fight it every inch of the way!

Steve

Wayne Maybury · #12 (**permalink**) 04-19-2006, 07:05 AM

Craig

I dug through my parts file and managed to find all of the bills. I did go with a 10.5" clutch. Here are my part numbers.

F M S flywheel 6375-A302
F M S clutch & pp 7560-A302
Lakewood bell housing 15200
Tilton bearing 61-601
Tilton collar 61-618

This steel billet flywheel requires metric bolts to secure the pressure plate.

I was a little bit worried about setting up the initial adjustment, but it worked out OK for me. I had never done this before and none of my friends even knew what I was talking about so I went into this, blind.

Hope this helps,
Wayne

priobe · #13 (**permalink**) 04-19-2006, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Riley

Priobe,
I started out with the Tilton unit and wasn't replacing anything. Seems to work well but the installation was a real pain to get it mounted and have the necessary clearance to the plate.
It was funny, not long thereafter I was watching American Hot Rod and saw them install the exact same unit on one of their cars as I had. They had to fight it every inch of the way!

Steve

I have rechecked everything several times and I am getting ready to place the body down. I hope all my clearances are right.

Thank for you help.

Scott S · #14 (**permalink**) 04-19-2006, 02:38 PM

Wayne,

What bore size of master cylinder did you use?

Scott S

cdnus · #15 (**permalink**) 04-20-2006, 06:05 PM

Thanks Wayne for the info.
Looks like I am going to have to drill my flywheel to acept the 10.5" clutch as the only patterns it has are for the long style clutches.
My other choice is to make a spacer for the transmision. Going to do some calculations tonight & make a decision. Need to get this done! The weathers great the roads are almost clear & my wild side is starting to itch. Almost time to make some noise.
Thanks again
Craig

Wayne Maybury · #16 (**permalink**) 04-21-2006, 07:05 AM

Craig

I am certainly no expert on flywheels and clutches but be very careful drilling a flywheel. If you are off by even a few thousands of an inch, you will almost certainly have a vibration. If you go this route make sure that it is done by someone that has lots of experience in this area. This is not an easy thing to do. You maybe better off to just buy a new flywheel, more dollars but less problems later on.

Good luck,
Wayne