Need help !!! Weber float level tool

[priobe]

Hello all,

I am looking for a weber float level tool that hooks up to the drain plug of the IDA 48. This tool has a cylinder which measures the fuel level height in the chamber without removing the carb top cover. I remember seeing it on here but do not remember where.

Can someone please help me with this and where I can purchase this tool.

Thanks

Phil

[Rick Parker]

Phil:

The one on the right is the only sight gauge type that will fit the 2 bbl 48 IDA's. I ordered another ($30.00) one but found that they will only work on the 3 bbl Porsche 40 IDA-3.

http://www.biekerengineering.com/products.htm

Did you get your engine redone?

[priobe]

Thanks Rick for the info.

It seems as if only 2 cylinders are not firing correctly. The guy that is working on it says it might be the floats. I say we are right back a square 1.

I might be look at EFI.

DO you have ball park figures for pricing with the EFI setup.

TWM and any others?

[ENTDOC]

check your wires and change your plugs.



I like this setup

http://commerce.idmi.net/ecommerce/c...ID=165&CI=2817

[carmine]

What 2 cylinders are not firing properly. Some cylinders tend to run hotter than others. If thats the case you might have to open idle mixture screws more on those cylinders.

[priobe]

I am not sure as to which ones are not firing. I am not the one working on it. I ended taking the car a few months back to a shop but it seems as if the guy is having problems with the carb tuning.

I am reaching out as much I can to help him resolve this problem but end result will benefit me.

I will suggest changing plugs and adjust mixture screw, but he has indicated that when you rev the motor and hold it at 2 k the pipes start to glow.

He wanted to properly adjust the floats with that device but Rick has indicated its only for IDA 48 3 C.

I am also looking for a Weber expert in the South Florida area to help us out with this situation.

This gentlemen has recommended to use the TWM injection but I really dont want to spend the money if its not needed. Besides, I only want to chance to efi if someone can proove that there is something wrong with the carbs.

Please I am looking for suggestions.

I have invested too much money with this guy to pull it form him at this time. Besides where will I take it.

I have tired to tune these carbs and now I have been paying someone to tune them so, something is not right.

Suggestions,

[ENTDOC]

give us your exact set up-- motor, jets , emulsion tubes ect

[Jac Mac]

Holding the motor at 2k with no load is not a 'natural' condition that the car is likely to 'see' under normal operating conditions. Open the hood of any carbureted car at night and perform the same test and chances are the exhaust manifold will start to glow.

[priobe]

The problem is not with the jetting. I believe it is with the carbs or intake.

We have tired many different jets.

Jac Mac,

I understand it is not a normal condition but the motor does not idle correctly. Its like it is running on 6 cylinders.

It might be a float issue, carb issue, or intake leak.

I would like to have someone install these carbs on their car or if they have a pair that I can borrow to test and see if it is the carb.

I have been fighting this problem for a very long time now. And now that I am paying someone they are in they same position I left the car.

The side with the webers running correctly does not glow, it runs perfect. Its the passenger side that misses.

I am trying to rule out the carbs but its hard with not knowing someone to exchange or swop carbs.

I dont know where to turn

And I really dont think its that difficult to get this thing tuned.

[ENTDOC]

any vacuum leak will ruin a tune on webers dramatically

[priobe]

I agree,

I am not the one tuning the carbs. But I find it hard to believe that I had a leak in the first place when I took it to him. He rebuilt the motor and the intake gasket looked good. He then reassembled the motor and we are at the same problem.

I was thinking and tell me if you think this will work.

Remove the carbs, then make an adaptor of some sort to connect to the intake opening of the carb. Connect this adapotor to a vacuum and measure the suction. making sure the intake valve is closed.

continue to do this across all ports of the carb make sure intake valves are close with each cylinder test.

I am hoping that this test will assure that there are no vacuum leaks.

What do you think?

[ENTDOC]

it would seem to me that you could not balance the carbs if you had a vacuum leak that affected only 2 of the carbs. Can they be balanced? If you hold the balencer on each of the carbs and run it up to 2500 or so , if 2 are out of balance you should be able to tell, at least you will know which carbs are out of synch

[priobe]

I know when I had the car they did balance out fine. I was able to sync them with the gauge indicating 5.5 on the meter.

I could only tell you now what he has told me, which is

I have tried tuning these carb and 2 of the cylinders are not firing. I think we might have a intake leak or the floats are not properly adjusted.

We then spoke about the way how to adjust the floats. I have read somewhere or heard this one way of adjust the floats

Remove the emulsion tube stack and turn on the fuel pump. The leve of the fuel should sit 2 - 3 mm from the bottom of the aux hole.

I have tried this myself and it does not work. I have tried lifting the float 5.5 mm from the top base of the carb body. Then adjust the tab 24.2 mm from the top gasket of the carb body. This was indicated in almost all of the books.

I then triple check this and then removed the e tube stack and did not see the fuel sit 2 -3 mm from the aux hole.

The reading I recieved was 18 -20 mm.

Have you heard of this was of adjusting the floats?

Thanks

[Jerry Clayton]

Fe ford engines have a bad problem of crossfiring if the plug wires aren't routed correctly---

Which two cylinders are miss firing????

Switch the position of the carbs and see if the condition changes cylinders---

Have you done leak down/compression checks????
Checked timing with a lite for every cylinder???
Checked cam / valve lift and timing for bad cylinders??

You have not given any facts about what has been done to identify which carb or cylinders are bad

PM me with this info and I'll try to assist you with solving your problem

Jerry

[priobe]

Jerry you have PM

[csx700?]

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[priobe]

Gentlemen,

I would like to thank all of you for your feedback in regards to this matter. I am happy to annouce that this problem has come to an end. ( I hope)

My engine guy which has the car in his possesion has contacted and informed that the motor is running great.

He has called me thoughout the day so far and finally told me minus a couple of adjustments ( install std stacks and 120 holders) that the car runs AWSOME!!!!!.

He has tested drove the car and he said it revs crisp, does not spit and fires right up. He has pulled the plugs and they are turning brown from a black carbon.

He will now install new plugs when the 120 holders arrive.

His explaination after repeatedly mentioning how AWSOME the car was that 1 st gear is a waste engaging 2nd is a waste and 3rd is when the car is useable.

Driveablility is excellant. He has finally admitted that he did not think the Webers would perform the way they do. In pervious conversation he wanted me to go EFI. I asked him if he still feels the same and he said that he does not think I should change.

As long as I could live with the characterisics of a carb motor I will be fine.

I cant wait to drive it.