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09-30-2009, 03:57 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
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58 mm Berg IDA Carbs--Here They Are
Well, Berg finished my 58 mm IDA carbs today. Now I've got to get them assembled, on my car, and dialed in--the journey begins.
If I can get them to run half as good as they look I should be in good shape.
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09-30-2009, 04:10 PM
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Location: Charlottesville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coombe, Shelby Block 496
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very nice, I want some!
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09-30-2009, 05:36 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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Stentor,
Very nice! You need to make sure the stock hood scoop is going to work, you may need to get the extra wide version sold by Cobra Restorers in aluminum. See my gallery for pictures. In 12 years, no one has commented to me if they noticed any difference when looking at the car.
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09-30-2009, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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I posted this in the other Weber threads but wanted to make sure you saw it, my reply from Berg:
Mr. Sorkey, Our Berg IDA carbs have the same stud pattern as the original Weber 48 IDA. The top of the intake manifold needs to be opened up for the larger throttle plate in our carbs.
Sincerely,
GENE BERG ENTERPRISES
Tim Walker
Parts Manager
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09-30-2009, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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Great carbs! Get them installed!
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09-30-2009, 08:50 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al
I posted this in the other Weber threads but wanted to make sure you saw it, my reply from Berg:
Mr. Sorkey, Our Berg IDA carbs have the same stud pattern as the original Weber 48 IDA. The top of the intake manifold needs to be opened up for the larger throttle plate in our carbs.
Sincerely,
GENE BERG ENTERPRISES
Tim Walker
Parts Manager
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Al,
Thanks for posting the message from Berg. I have confirmed that the standard 48 IDA FE manifold will work just fine (consistent with the message you received). I have already had the machine work done on the manifold to match the Berg 58 mm carbs.
Thanks for the heads-up regarding the hood scoop. I went with the shorter velocity stacks to try to help with hood clearance. However, the diameter of the stacks is almost 4" at the top--so they're pretty wide.
I will keep you posted as I try to get things together over the next couple of weeks.
Thanks,
Stentor
Last edited by Stentor; 09-30-2009 at 08:54 PM..
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10-01-2009, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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How much machine work was required to fit the 58's? Can you post a photo of the finished manifold?
Thanks.
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10-01-2009, 12:23 PM
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Location: Salem,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289 FIA #2100 Rio Red Wimbledon White Stripes 302 stroked to 331 Webers Richmond Road Race 5 speed
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WOW those things are huge! You will have to post a sign at car shows "DANGER, when engine is running small dogs and children may by sucked into the intake scoop"!
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10-01-2009, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al
How much machine work was required to fit the 58's? Can you post a photo of the finished manifold?
Thanks.
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Al,
I don't have a picture of the finished manifold yet--I will post one as soon as I can. I have been told that the manifold came out fine--and I believe the machining cost was around $200 to $300.
Stentor
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10-08-2009, 06:13 PM
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One step closer--now I've got the 58 mm Berg IDAs mounted on the manifold and ready to go.
Last edited by Stentor; 10-08-2009 at 06:23 PM..
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10-08-2009, 06:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Dayum! Better keep small animals from getting sucked into your hood scoop.
BTW, they look great on that intake.
-Dean
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10-08-2009, 06:32 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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Bellissimo! Works for me! Get her mounted up!
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10-08-2009, 09:27 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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They're so big, that if they were white, I'd have to pee in them.
You have me thinking Webers now, though mine would be the bidet-sized 48's.
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12-07-2009, 05:59 PM
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Stentor, any updates? Do they fit under the hood? If so, what mods did you have to make?
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12-07-2009, 06:35 PM
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Rod,
I did get the 58 IDAs in the car and am working on getting the carbs fine tuned. So far so good.
With the angled manifold and short velocity stacks it doesn't look like I am going to have any hood clearance issues.
I will keep folks updated as I fine tune them over the coming weeks.
Here they are in the car.
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12-08-2009, 11:15 AM
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Just awesome. Good luck with the tuning and I can't wait to hear about your driving thoughts. Please do update. Maybe down the road, I may go for some Weber 48's, not sure yet.
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12-08-2009, 12:12 PM
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looks awesome
have you said bye bye to you tires?
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12-08-2009, 04:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Once Owned CSX4803, CSX803 block, Keith Craft 468, Suspension by Tom Barnard, Built by Kris Kincaid
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Re:
Those are sweet!
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12-01-2013, 07:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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How did these work out after being dialed in? They sure look great!
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12-05-2013, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Parker
How did these work out after being dialed in? They sure look great!
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Rick,
Thanks for your message. I haven't been on the forum much lately (busy with work).
I have been very pleased with the Berg 58mm IDAs. It took a while to get them dialed in; but, once tuned they've been great (no problems or issues so far). And the 58s work nicely on the bored/stroked FE.
Best,
Kevin
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