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Old 09-08-2006, 03:49 PM
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I have had a chance to get home and put a couple shots of jet fuel in the tank which cleared things up a bit. I do recall there may be one other reason for the irreverent coolant posing as fuel. Two problems can occur with the intake manifold. It is much more prone to warping if not torqued in the proper sequence and if you use the cork as a seal at the front and back of the intake to the block. The cork has a tendency to "hold" the intake out giving false torque readings and can also cause misalignment. Most builders will just use a big bead of high temp gasket maker instead of the cork.

I may be back if I have enough fuel to support the after burners.
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:15 PM
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If you want some thoughts on your problem we will be here tomorrow after aprox 1030am. or-----
You have a on going reacurrance of the same series of problems---you need a fresh slant on things--if you are getting that much coolant in that amount of time, if it is a crack in a head or block you should have combustion traces in your cooling system

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Old 09-08-2006, 09:23 PM
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Alright. I decided I would like to dive into this project of disassembling on Sunday morning. If anybody is interested in lending a hand I would be very happy to have you.

I'm still very bummed out. Go figure. Hopefully it's just a head gasket or a warped head. If it's a cracked block I will be down for the count for a long time.

Lets all hope for the best.

Let me know who plans on stopping by. I will start at 8:00am on Sunday. Bears are on at 3:00 I believe.

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I'll be there. Probably R.Musson too, I talked to him tonite & he has Sunday free.
Get gaskets tomorrow!! I looked up the ones I used & they did not have the little "speed groove" in the coolant passage area, hopefully you can find some that don't have that. I think the # was Fel-pro # 1250

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Chris,

I can help and I'll drop by your place at 8:00AM Sunday.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:07 AM
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I wish I could make it Chris, but I simply can not. Let me know if it turns into a Monday evening though. If you replace a head gasket don't forget to paint it with silver oxide or mr gasket copper. Good luck.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:17 AM
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Chris,
Between you and Rich and MD you have
good people on the problem. I had the right side
head off my 351 C last year. Not a bad job
it is just the worry about scratching something. I'm sure you
guys know already ( only a reminder) to pull the block plugs. As long as you are looking for coolant tracks that will keep everything
nice and dry when you pull the head. My fingers are crossed.
Hope the BLUE car is roaring by kickoff time.
Are you still at the house that you had the campfire at?
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Chris,

Sounds like you have 8 hands on the job already, plus your dad for comic relief. I should be able to get out there if you need me and will be happy to help if you want. Even if you don't want, it looks like a good excuse to hop in the Cobra if it's a nice day and I do have to run an errand in Schaumburg and maybe one in Wheeling if time permits.

Do you need any tools or other stuff? Do you have compressed air?

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Thanks guys. We'll see you in the morning.

Lowell, No compressed air. Come on by.

Mike, Those are the gaskets that Mroz said he used also.

I just got home from working at the house (I'll have to pick up gaskets in the morning).

And finally, I am still at the same house as the campfire. And yes, it's still for sale for anybody interested...

See you all in the morning. I'll be the valet in the morning..........
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:13 PM
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SO, what's the verdict?
Don't just leave us hanging. Did you have to re-mortgage the new house also?
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:32 PM
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See you all in the spring..............................

Quicker than ever hopefully.

Cracked block in the #4 cylinder.

Thanks to all that participated in the surgery. I'm taking shortblock donations....

At least I can spend some time detailing my engineless bay.

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Thumbs down That's NOT Good News!

Damn! Double Damn!!
Very sorry to hear the bad news, Chris.

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Chris,
When you get the engine out, I have a nice pattern for a heat shield for the brake lines on the drivers side upper frame. A snap to fab and install with the engine out....
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Sorry Chris,
If it would be any help, I have a 351 Wheezer shortblock in
my garage out of a 1993 truck. You would be out the
gaskets and labor. If you do not blow it up just give it back when
you are done with it. As Rich said, you are the Great Blue Hope!
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Tell me where the cylinder is cracked--maybe you just need a sleeve installed

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Chris,

Some good suggestions here. With a little thrashing you could be back on the road in a day. If next Saturday is nice, I'll be up at Elkhart Lake and the other guys'll probably be drag racing but if the weather's crappy, we could all get together again and drop Ed's motor in your car, slap your heads and intake on it and you'd be ready to go. If not Saturday, maybe Sunday. Meantime, you could pull the intake and heads off your motor and see just where the problem is. If you use Ed's short block and yours can be sleeved, you could still enjoy your car for the rest of the fall and reinstall your motor over the winter. Minimal down time and minimal expense. Whaddaya say?

Or...we could put Ralph's motor in your car and paint it half red...

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Oh, BTW, Chris,

If you haven't already, pull the drain plug on the side of the block and drain all the water. Then turn the motor over a couple of times to push all the water out of that cylinder, squirt in some oil (wouldn't hurt to squirt some oil in all the cylinders while you're at it) and turn it over a couple of more times. It would really suck to have the rings rust in the cylinder after everything else.

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Old 09-11-2006, 06:43 AM
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Nice offer Ed, excellent suggestions Lowell. We still have a couple months+ of driving weather. Jerry has another great suggestion with sleeving the cylinder and while you’re at it we could check the bearings and go thru the bottom end, get a set of heads you like and reassemble everything. Depending on the heads you choose I bet you could get all this done for less than $3k and have a fresh engine in for the spring. We could call it daisy or whatever the name of a blue flower is.

What do you think Chris?
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Or you could sleeve it and race it Saturday

If you let me know I'll plan Wed to put in a sleeve, I just need to know the bore size and what block it is ( ford, dart,etc)

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Sounds like Jerry's got the best plan yet. I had no idea you could get it done that fast. Chris, are you listening?

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