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Merv and Sharon
CC Member
Registered: June 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 3482
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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So the MSO is the Manufacturers Statement of Origin - the 'birth certificate' but not the build date or registration date?
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Merv
Ford Cobra
Harrison #80.
Peregian Beach
Sunshine Coast Qld.
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mrmustang
CC Member/Contributor
Registered: February 2000
Location: Greenville
Posts: 12685
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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Merv,
That is correct...Heck, even early FFR, SPF, ERA, Unique (and more) had a year of manufacturer of 1965. Done as that was what it replicated, not the actual date of manufacturer.
Bill S.
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Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
First time Cobra buyers-READ THIS
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Got the Bug
Senior Club Cobra Member
Registered: October 2006
Location: Santa Cruz
Posts: 4097
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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Wow! Talk about a house of pain! Hey, the car has already depreciated about $600K, so you might as well just make room for it in your collection and enjoy it. Guessing that the person who sold you the car was leaving the country forever.
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Doug
No stop signs, speed limit - Nobody's gonna slow me down - Like a wheel, gonna spin it
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CSX4048
CC Member
Registered: November 2010
Posts: 22
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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Doug, the person who sold the car still insist it is an original.. but i'll get that sorted soon...
yes, i am considering keeping it for sheer enjoyment but will see how it goes.
sounds like the Lambretta is worth more.. 
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RodKnock
Senior Club Cobra Member
Registered: February 2007
Posts: 9588
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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People play games with words. Yes, your car is an "original" and "real" Shelby Cobra, but it's not an original and real Shelby Cobra built in the 1960's with a CSX number in the 3000's. Those cars are worth hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.
Here's an ALUMINUM CSX4000 roller, no engine and transmission, asking $120,000:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/2078569178.html
But, your car is fiberglass. The CSX fiberglass rollers are presently selling for $50K and will be going up to $60K on 12/1/10. Though the new rollers are CSX6000's since they ran out of 4000 numbers.
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CSX4048
CC Member
Registered: November 2010
Posts: 22
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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RodKnock - thanks for that, i know now what i am in possession of, but i was mislead and the car was misrepresented to me and i paid for it as if it was a 1965 car. now i will have to see what i can do about it.
best regards.
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Beejay
CC Member
Registered: February 2006
Location: The Hills
Posts: 1354
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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I cannot beleive how calm you are after learning that you have been scammed out of half a million bucks!
Ben
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CSX4048
CC Member
Registered: November 2010
Posts: 22
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Comment Date: Thu November 25, 2010
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well, not exactly calm... but what good is it gonna do me yelling here?!..
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BMK
CC Member
Registered: June 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 14974
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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An offence under the crime Act - Theft by deception. Section 178B Crimes Act 1900 covers this offence in NSW.
Mmmm worth considering and reporting...
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Bernie Knight
KMS 427 #662 Shelby 468 CSX 1026
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Legless
CC Member
Registered: July 2009
Location: Empire Bay
Posts: 380
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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Deception? Here is a link to the advertisement by Rudolph Masi http://www.piccola.com.au/sa-sales_listings.htm the car does not really appear to be misrepresented. The date on the PDF is 1/05/2008. I believe the car was advertised for sale for $580,000 which would put it about the same time csx 4048 said he paid $700,000 for it.????? So would stamp duty, does Luxury vehicle tax apply and GST come into it ? It may bring it up nearer to $700K I dunno... PS I live on the coast if anyone wants me to take it for a test drive.
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Legless
If its not blown it sucks!
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Legless
CC Member
Registered: July 2009
Location: Empire Bay
Posts: 380
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CSX4048
CC Member
Registered: November 2010
Posts: 22
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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BMK, thanks for the info, will look into it.
legless, i agree,the dealer did state it was a continuation but not a replica and as such appeared more valuable.
we'll see what we do, may end up keeping it if that's all its worth...
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GR997S
CC Member
Registered: January 2010
Location: orange county
Posts: 18
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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Based on the link, not much deception. Buyer just overpaid. No law against that....GR
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CSX4048
CC Member
Registered: November 2010
Posts: 22
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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"No law against that." - true, but it doesn't make it right.
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MnCCX
CC Member
Registered: August 2007
Posts: 33
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Comment Date: Fri November 26, 2010
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I think people who are assuming the ad proves no deception on the part of the seller are also assuming everyone knows what a "continuation" cobra is. However, that is not the case. If the seller lists it as a continuation car but then knowingly represents to an unsuspecting buyer that continuation cars are real '65 cobras, or maybe that this is one of the cars a lot of guys called completion cobras from the late '80's, that is still deception. Now I'm not going to get into any kind of talk about what the buyer should have known before writing the check. I am just pointing out that simply listing a term that we my see as commonplace in an ad doesn't mean there wasn't deception if the buyer didn't know the correct meaning of that term and the seller then took advantage and misrepresented it.
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