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Post By BBQCYCLEWERKES
10-22-2013, 06:58 PM
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1964 427 Engine FOUND! What do I do with it???
So I know very little about 1960’s Cobras… however, I recently inherited an original 1964 427FE Engine (C4AE- 6090-H). The engine was originally installed into a ‘Luxury Regent Speed Boat’ (go figure…) and has not been changed since removed from the boat. It will need some new parts to go into a Cobra but based on my research, this is the engine which would be original equipment for a 1964-65 3100 Series low-riser Cobra. It was packed away in storage for most of its life and is in great condition. I had a shop lube it up and get it running, here is a video of it from a few months ago: 1964, 427 Cobra Jet - YouTube
If anyone has any advice on where to find an appropriate buyer please let me know! (I am located near Chicago) Any info or help would be much appreciated!!!
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10-23-2013, 07:41 AM
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Try posting on the FE Forum.
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10-23-2013, 07:47 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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The heads (which is the casting number you posted above) are low riser items.
What is the casting number off the block?
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10-23-2013, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Build a car and install
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10-23-2013, 01:44 PM
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Didn't some marine FE's turn the opposite direction from the street engines?
Seems like I read that somewhere.
Larry
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10-23-2013, 05:27 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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I understand some were reverse rotation for mounting in tandam with a normal rotation motor to balance out the rotational forces. That one appears to be rotating clockwise from the video. Nice piece - sounds pretty good.
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10-23-2013, 07:04 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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Larry is right. The firing order was ground of the counter-rotating engine. Special camshaft, too.
Most of them were Chris-Craft 300 horsepower. The marine stuff is getting rare. This engine has water - cooled exhaust manifolds.
I put a few buyers and sellers in touch and never even met either one. It was cool.
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Last edited by rpatton3; 10-23-2013 at 07:07 PM..
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10-24-2013, 08:51 AM
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Block ID
The only thing I can find on the block is: 04A(4?) 6015-A
Does that mean anything to anyone? The intake is a C3AE-9425-K
Carbs are Holley 600s I believe. Would this engine be worth anything to an AC Cobra enthusiast or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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10-24-2013, 09:44 AM
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According to my reference materials, if the block is C4AE-A, it is a '64 427 Top Oiler
Manifold C3AE-K is a '63 427 8V Aluminum dual plane
Makes sense for a '64 427 Low Rise Center Oiler
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10-24-2013, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1964-427
The only thing I can find on the block is: 04A(4?) 6015-A
Does that mean anything to anyone? The intake is a C3AE-9425-K
Carbs are Holley 600s I believe. Would this engine be worth anything to an AC Cobra enthusiast or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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I would say so for someone trying to replicate a 65 427 Street Roadster or to someone trying to re-engine a 64 Galaxie 427.
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10-25-2013, 02:59 PM
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Watch out for old engines that were used in a boat. The older boat engines used river [or salt water] water to cool the engine.
What I have seen on some of these old engines is, nice looking blocks on the outside, but eat up on the inside.
A friend of mine bought [against my advise] two 289 engines from a boat [ I think they were called interceptors, but I can't remember].
I told him about the water problem, but he didn't listen, and tried to bore one of them .030, and hit a rust bubble hole in two cylinders.
I would pull the freeze plugs, and try to get a look at the insides as much as I could before sinking any money into it.
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10-26-2013, 05:19 AM
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Pressure test and sonic.
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10-26-2013, 05:39 AM
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Put it in your garage and tell tall tales to anyone who will listen
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