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Post By kyleb
12-27-2016, 12:07 AM
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slowing down power steering
I was told the powersteering on a BDR is very touchy and can get you into trouble at higher speeds. Is there a way to adjust this? Maybe add an adjustable flow rate valve?
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12-27-2016, 06:30 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M / Power Performance / 521 stroker / Holley HP EFI
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tnc,
Not sure I'd accept an opinion like that without some hands-on experience.
It's not the PS that can get a Cobra driver in trouble, it's usually whoever has their hands on the wheel
Cobras by definition are vulnerable to snap-spinning due to the combination of light weight and short wheelbase - don't ask me how I know this first hand...
If the person telling you this is an experienced track-oriented driver, maybe you'd have the same perspective, maybe not.
One of the best pieces of advice I ever got about driving Cobras is "have slow hands."
It might benefit you to have a test ride, as a driver if possible, in a car like the one you are looking for. They're all the same and yet can be very different, so a similar BDR would be a good choice.
If you are looking for a relatively tame, comfortable driving experience you may be looking in the wrong genre...
Just sayin'
Tom
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Originally Posted by tnc110
I was told the powersteering on a BDR is very touchy and can get you into trouble at higher speeds. Is there a way to adjust this? Maybe add an adjustable flow rate valve?
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12-27-2016, 07:14 AM
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What type of pump do you have? Or is it electric?
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12-27-2016, 07:33 AM
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A fellow Cobra guy has a FFR. He lives in Indiana and comes to the London Ohio car show every year. He put an adjustable pressure regulating valve on his power steering. It is design for this application; not some backwoods rig job. It dumps excess pressure, in the supply line, to the return line. Last I talked to him, he was quite happy with it. He runs autocross a lot and said it made a hug difference for him.
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12-27-2016, 07:45 AM
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Power steering??????
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12-27-2016, 08:55 AM
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This is what I installed in my WCC and it works very well:
ADJUSTABLE POWER STEERING VALVE (PS-101) - HEIDTS
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Liberty Twp, OH
West Coast Cobra
Red W/ White Strips
SVO 460
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12-27-2016, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olddog
A fellow Cobra guy has a FFR. He lives in Indiana and comes to the London Ohio car show every year. He put an adjustable pressure regulating valve on his power steering. It is design for this application; not some backwoods rig job. It dumps excess pressure, in the supply line, to the return line. Last I talked to him, he was quite happy with it. He runs autocross a lot and said it made a hug difference for him.
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I would love to know what he is running, sounds prefect.
I live in the mountains, nothing but twisties, not having powersteering makes for a long ride!
I don't have a car yet, doing all my homework at this point.
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12-27-2016, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tnc110
I would love to know what he is running, sounds prefect.
I live in the mountains, nothing but twisties, not having powersteering makes for a long ride!
I don't have a car yet, doing all my homework at this point.
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We've installed those adjustable valves and the result was turning it all the way "down" to the point of almost no assistance.
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12-27-2016, 12:56 PM
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I have a common combination in my West Coast Cobra with 460 BBF - a Saginaw 'canned ham' pump and a Mustang II power steering rack.
Fixes: - Borgeson Power Steering Pump Pressure-Reducing Kit ( https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/brg-899001 ) - this will reduce the pressure from what the Saginaw pump generates to the pressure the steering rack is designed and built for. Reduces probability high pressure will blow past seals in rack. Widely available.
- Flow control valve - drops flow rate to the flow rate the rack is designed for and makes the steering less 'twitchy'. Mine is from Vintage Air ( https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...2001/overview/ ), but they're made by many companies and widely available.
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12-27-2016, 03:53 PM
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The other option is to throw the old power steering pump in the trash and get a power steering pump (power-pack) from a 2000ish model MR2 spyder.
Mount it anywhere you want and hook it up to the original power steering rack.
It is a fully self contained unit that only needs Battery and ign 12v power. It can be hooked into you Vehicle speed sensor on the gearbox for variable output.
Gets full pressure when parking and pressure is reduced as speed increases.
Job done !!
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