non traditional dood scoop

[Michael C Henry]

I've seen a all aluminum hood scoop built for and on what I assume is a Kirkham replica Cobra the scoop tapers from the front up and to the rear near the wind shield. I see it as the best direction for me. Currently I have a small as original hood scoop. My two cut down in height S&H air cleaners are up against the inner surface of the hood. I'd like to use a oval Ford dual four air cleaner with maybe a larger K&N element. That would bring the portion of that air cleaner through the hood surface. I' d like to buy or have built a similar scoop.

[Michael C Henry]

It took me hours to find pictures of that scoop. The pictures were posted by Morris (Club Cobra>Club cobra Tech Area>Shop Talk). (alternative Hood Scoops) Page 2 of 3
I want that or something like it. It looks great . A hood scoop along those lines. would do it for me. Any body?

[mr bruce]

I'll make you anything you want, how soon do you want it? I have other irons in the fire rite now, thanks, b

[Michael C Henry]

Have you seen the scoop I'm talking about? I'm serious about this. Lets talk mikes427@net-venture.com

[mr bruce]

I might have something like your looking for,give me a few days to make a qwik and dirty mock-up for you, how big is the oval air cleaner, length x width?

[Michael C Henry]

The "old school" Ford- Cobra oval air cleaner for single and dual four & tri power ( 3x2s) is 101/2" wide and 21 1/4" long with cast aluminum top. Elements are the same measurements but filter height dual four being a little taller than the tri power. Back in the 60's stacking two dual four elements was the way to go
Have you looked at the pictures I'm talking about on this website? They pictures show the scoop being made in several steps and views up to completion? I think it turned out great.

[mr bruce]

yep, I've seen Morris' scoop, I have molds to make 8 different types of scoops to work from, to get close to his, I will have to adjust size wise to accommodate your aircleaner

[byron w]

I have a Mr. Bruce Super snake scoop just finished painting the car. It looks great. I could e-mail pics to you but I cant post on here.
Byron

[john chesnut]

I purchased a body from Mr Bruce. I'm very happy with his workmanship.

[Michael C Henry]

Mr BRUCE

I'd really like to see some pictures or have more conversation before you spend too much time and effort. The Morris cowl induction scoop is more than wide enough to accommodate any thing I may want to use from underneath.. The actual hole in the hood underneath would be based on the actual air cleaner being used. I have two of the old school oval dual four air cleaners in my shed. My car has two Holley 4150 four barrel carbs on a tunnel wedge intake manifold. I have so much in this system I don't see that ever changing, but the air cleaner situation can't change without the hood and scoop changes. The Two S&H air cleaners I'm using are 8 1/2" across. The perforated steel rings are trimmed down in height tapering down to their outside edges ) to just fit under the hood surface. I see the now even smaller foam filters as restrictive this is where the need for a different hood scoop and air cleaner comes from

[Michael C Henry]

I bought this car twenty years ago, I would have made other choices If I had it to do. My duel fours are impressive but a single four intake and larger single four barrel carb (4500 dominator) would afford a better air filter and flow more. but that is what I have and it will stay. Also my engine sits mostly flat and most intake manifold are tapered to work in production cars. The rear of my air cleaner is the highest point on the engine. That is where Webbers or other multiport induction systems work so well in these cars. But what I have now probably will stay, I just want a better air filter and a scoop that would let it all work.

[mr bruce]

I sent pictures to the e-mail address you posted, it is basically one of my supersnake hood scoops turned around backward, just so you get an idea of the basic shape, side pfofile, etc, I can send you the scoop or modify it to your specs, it will have to be cut sectioned, etc. If you want a squared off style scoop, I would have to make a plug and then a mold, and then the scoop itself ,. lots of time and $$$

[Michael C Henry]

More pictures of traditional and non traditional hood scoops please.
Morris responded and said he had built that scoop for evacuating the under hood air rather than it all going under the car. With the really aggressive chin spoiler or splitter, cutting a lot of the under ca airy he said the car has gone as much as 186 MPH
. The Daytona's did a lot in that direction, lowered nose and the air that had gone through the radiator being returned to outside the hood. That's another car but what to do with this car all knowing it is replica, streamlined like a brick and too much air going under the car above 150 MPH.

[Jdata]

Bruce,

I believe you and I have exchanged emails in the past. I got a question do you do anything with Daytona coupes?

[mr bruce]

I have molds for 90" and 93" wheelbase bodys, I have no other parts, or time to build whole cars, if you're up for a scratch build , i'm you man for bodys, should be some pichurs in my gallery

[Michael C Henry]

I have only this 1984 Everett Morrison 427 SC replica. I admire the Daytona coups for the advances they brought. The streamed line shape, the radiator air being ducted outside back on top of hood to cut the air from under the car and create down force. and beating Ferrari. I'm not going to build a Daytona coup at this stage in my life. But the Daytona was a big jump in evolution of the Cobra linage. Thank you Pete Brock. The Cobra has a lot of problems with its nostalgic shape. but I like it. I never got into a Daytona replica, I May not fit. But back to my car's situation. I'd like to have the car repainted but not till after I resolve the air cleaner thing or just give up. I'm just not happy with things the way they are now. I feel the S&H air cleaners are restrictive, not sure what I'd ever do with more power but I want it.

[mr bruce]

Mike, I'm not suggesting you do a Daytona rebody, My response was for Jdata's inquiry about Daytona bodys, as for your problem, you need a hood with air extraxtion vents to get air out of the engine compartment, and a cowl induction hood high enough to clear your carbs, with a pan to seal the outside air coming into the carbs , I can make both , but you are 3000 miles away , I have no way to guarantee it will be exactly what you want. thanks, b

[Michael C Henry]

I'm looking at all options. I hadn't thought of the Morris scoop as a under hood air extraction. I thought of it as cowl induction if a carb tray were used to seal with foam sponge to under hood separating radiator and under car air from the carb intake. Rear intake wouldn't have rain water being taken in and falling on to the distributor. I have been caught out in driving rain. My small traditional hood doesn't open to about half way over the first chromed S&H air cleaner top. For my car a larger air cleaner would have to come up through the normal hood line and would be right at the edge of the distributor. That is why I'm interested in a non traditional hood scoop or all together different hood .