has any one seen this car?

[ERA 626]

They are claiming 752 miles LOL. the car has so many issues I dont have the time to list... look at the ride height, the rear end of the car looks cooked the build looks like a elementary school project. a prime example of an idiot building a cobra

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...l#&gid=1&pid=2

[Anthony]

Yeah, the ride height needs adjusted. I think 4" front, 4 1/2" rear ? taken from frame. easily adjusted. But, I think you need scales to do it right, which I need to get a set, to do with mine. Maybe late Xmas present ? Some scrape marks. Maybe he raised ride height of the car because of speed bumps ?

Wonder who built the engine ?

I'd take it. Not for $145K, but i'd take it.

[jolsen42]

You can't be serious? "Looks like a elementary school project. a prime example of an idiot building a cobra" The only thing I don't like about it is the rear end height, lower the ride height all around, but everything else is spot on. It is a "Continuation Car", one of the early ones with a fiberglass body, but it is a Shelby. A little overpriced but still a Shelby. I would like to see your long list of issues tho.

John O

[DanEC]

All I immediately see are the 4x4 off road ride height and 1:00 positioning of the turn signal lever. I could probably take care of that stuff in a couple hours. But - it would prompt a buyer to take a closer look at the car overall as there could be a few other things not as obvious.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by DanEC

All I immediately see are the 4x4 off road ride height and 1:00 positioning of the turn signal lever. I could probably take care of that stuff in a couple hours. But - it would prompt a buyer to take a closer look at the car overall as there could be a few other things not as obvious.

Agreed - plus I'd want to do something about the batteries to clean up that look - they look like they were haphazardly dropped in there and wired up.

[spdbrake]

The ride height is probably the speed bumps. It appears the City of Doral Fl. likes calming devices (speed bumps) https://www.cityofdoral.com/_entity/...0Standards.pdf

Batteries do look like someone started wiring them in parallel.
Oil filter nipple and cutter hose ends are not fully assembled and top one looks to blowout.

Don't why they didn't take the time to rag-wrench the leaks before the photos though.

It is a nice car though.

[joyridin']

The rear end is weird, but other than that, is sure looks like a nice car.

[Sawdust]

Did you notice the gap between the body and the side pipe....... wow!

[Buzz]

Yep - that's quite the gap all right!

[RUFdriver]

It’s had some suspension work no doubt, should be easily correctable, will need a PPI. Not a bad car, but overpriced. Wasn’t SA selling fiberglass rollers at some point? Maybe this was one of them.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by spdbrake

Batteries do look like someone started wiring them in parallel.
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I think the optima batteries , that are in this car, are 12V, and therefore you wire them in parallel. The original style were 6V, and you wire them in series.

Originally Posted by RUFdriver

Wasn’t SA selling fiberglass rollers at some point? Maybe this was one of them.

A long time ago, the initial CSX4000's were sold in a kit form, and most of these cars were assembled by an authorized dealer, including instillation of the drive train.

Then, I believe Shelby began to have the cars finished as rollers from the beginning, and I think this started with CSX4750, and continuing on to CSX6000's, and then either the dealer installed the drive train, or the customer could purchase a finished roller, and do the drive train themselves.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I think the optima batteries , that are in this car, are 12V, and therefore you wire them in parallel. The original style were 6V, and you wire them in series.

I don't know what you're looking at but the batteries in photo #28 are 6V Optima Red tops wired in SERIES to make 12V. This was exactly the configuration used in my car. They aren't mounted well - they are missing the top tie downs.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I don't know what you're looking at but the batteries in photo #28 are 6V Optima Red tops wired in SERIES to make 12V. This was exactly the configuration used in my car. They aren't mounted well - they are missing the top tie downs.

you're right.

At one time I had a set of 12V in my car in parallel, and I thought this was the case. yes, they are in series.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Then, I believe Shelby began to have the cars finished as rollers from the beginning, and I think this started with CSX4750, and continuing on to CSX6000's, and then either the dealer installed the drive train, or the customer could purchase a finished roller, and do the drive train themselves.

I had heard there were a few "kits" but not many. They were rollers from whenever I can remember. However, Shelby as a manufacturer NEVER installed a drive train (they couldn't sell them as completed vehicles, with one exception, see below.) They had an "associate" that would finish the car and deliver it sort of turn key, but they buyer paid for it and it went next door. This came to an end after California came up with a rule that there could be no business relationship between the manufacturer, seller and installer and all of them (Shelby, Hillbank/SPF) started just supplying a list.

The single exception to the Shelby completed cars were the 6 or so CSX4xxxLA cars that were built and sold into the Mexico market (actually, 6 cars built at once for a group buy). These cars were built by HST International and "manufactured" in their entirety, at HST's Tijuana Mexico facility. HST took the CSX car they built and installed a Roush+Tremec power train. Whether this is Shelby American building a car, or Shelby American (having ended their involvement when the roller was completed and turned over to HST's mechanics) is a matter of splitting legal hairs. In any case, my car was considered "turnkey" and a foreign delivery. It was then sold to the Mexico City guy, who later sold it to a LA area dealer that imported it back into the US and was the last (as near as I can tell, at least near the end) Cobra to have a CA title with a CSX VIN. Don't argue with me, I have a copy of the title from when I bought it.

The HST turnkey cars make me wonder if Shelby or Superformance, with a sale known to be a foreign delivery, could install the powertrain in South Africa and sell it as turnkey...

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Yep - that's quite the gap all right!

Just use it as a step to get in the car ??

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Blue66

Just use it as a step to get in the car ??

I've seen a couple of nice F350s that had exactly that (and looked just like the pic).

[RUFdriver]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I had heard there were a few "kits" but not many. They were rollers from whenever I can remember. However, Shelby as a manufacturer NEVER installed a drive train (they couldn't sell them as completed vehicles, with one exception, see below.) They had an "associate" that would finish the car and deliver it sort of turn key, but they buyer paid for it and it went next door. This came to an end after California came up with a rule that there could be no business relationship between the manufacturer, seller and installer and all of them (Shelby, Hillbank/SPF) started just supplying a list.

The single exception to the Shelby completed cars were the 6 or so CSX4xxxLA cars that were built and sold into the Mexico market (actually, 6 cars built at once for a group buy). These cars were built by HST International and "manufactured" in their entirety, at HST's Tijuana Mexico facility. HST took the CSX car they built and installed a Roush+Tremec power train. Whether this is Shelby American building a car, or Shelby American (having ended their involvement when the roller was completed and turned over to HST's mechanics) is a matter of splitting legal hairs. In any case, my car was considered "turnkey" and a foreign delivery. It was then sold to the Mexico City guy, who later sold it to a LA area dealer that imported it back into the US and was the last (as near as I can tell, at least near the end) Cobra to have a CA title with a CSX VIN. Don't argue with me, I have a copy of the title from when I bought it.

The HST turnkey cars make me wonder if Shelby or Superformance, with a sale known to be a foreign delivery, could install the powertrain in South Africa and sell it as turnkey...

I had forgotten about the HST cars, I guess anything goes outside our borders ( sometimes inside too). I recall the csx frames CS had “ curing” outside in the Texas sun or so it goes. Even a couple of days ago I saw someone from Shelby trying to sell aluminum and fiberglass cobra bodies and parts on FB. The ad has since disappeared.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I had heard there were a few "kits" but not many. They were rollers from whenever I can remember. ------- Don't argue with me, I have a copy of the title from when I bought it.
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No problem.

I just know what was involved when I ordered, and took delivery of both of my early CSX4000 cars. A glass car bought before Shelby outsourced Kirkham for aluminum bodies, and then an aluminum CSX4000 shortly after Shelby contracted with Kirkham.