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Post By Tom Wells
09-27-2021, 06:25 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2018
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Car #1209 Roush 427R
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Ethanol damage/fuel stabilizer
Interesting. If you have a carb, you are most certainly familiar with what the inside of it will look like from exposure to ethanol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvS_D4_lF5U
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09-27-2021, 07:19 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Have to watch more closely later but I was impressed with his electric drill gas engine starter.
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09-27-2021, 09:55 AM
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Yeah, exposure with unused fuel. Having had boats all my life I am familiar with ethanol fuel in carburetors but never had a problem if you constantly run fuel through them. Sitting causes problems.
Last edited by CobraResurrect; 09-28-2021 at 11:50 AM..
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09-27-2021, 03:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by FredG
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You mean like this? My first primary metering block on my Holley carb was really susceptible to ethanol. Fortunately I cracked that one and replaced it with one that isn't nearly so bad. Somewhere I read that in the early 2000's Holley had a run of particularly bad metal.
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09-28-2021, 06:13 AM
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I had issues with one of my carbs due to ethanol fuel. The rubber tip on one of my carb bowl float needles deteriorated and I was dumping a sh!t-load of fuel into my engine while it was running. I picked up a couple "needles", installed one and kept the other in the car for a spare. I'm not sure if Holley makes ones that are E10 resistant.
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09-28-2021, 06:27 AM
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We have non ethanol fuel available so I very rarely use anything else and especially when a vehicle is in storage ...no bueno ......
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09-28-2021, 10:01 AM
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Float Bowl
I thought of this picture you posted from a while back when I was watching the video. Probably why I take my bowls off every winter and clean them.
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Originally Posted by patrickt
You mean like this? My first primary metering block on my Holley carb was really susceptible to ethanol. Fortunately I cracked that one and replaced it with one that isn't nearly so bad. Somewhere I read that in the early 2000's Holley had a run of particularly bad metal.
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09-28-2021, 10:14 AM
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Let me tell you, when one of those white flaky pieces you see on the metering block, that looks kind of like the fur on Ellie's butt, would lodge itself in to that tube with all the holes in it that Holley's have that head up to the air bleeds at the top of the horn, the engine would go from running beautifully to running like crap, at idle and off idle, in a matter of minutes. The first time it happened I said to myself "damn it, you wiped a lobe -- nothing else could make the car run that bad that fast. But wait, it still accelerates hard nicely... wtf??" But it could be cured just as quickly as it came, with blasts from my preferred gum cutter, Berkebile 2+2, down through the eight air bleeds. It is absolutely astounding how a small tuft of crap can make a Holley misbehave so quickly.
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09-28-2021, 05:16 PM
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Can happen to any carburettor if a piece of solid debris gets in to the jetting.
I seen grass, fuel line rubber, sand etc, and well as general fines that cheap fuel filters don't stop.
A bit harder to sort on the average Holley metering block, since the emulsion tubes are harder to remove than most carbs.
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09-28-2021, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaz64
I seen grass, fuel line rubber, sand etc...
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Uhhhh, what about dog hair?
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09-28-2021, 05:19 PM
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Uhhhh, what about dog hair?
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Uh, nah, not that I can remember, .
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09-29-2021, 10:31 AM
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I wish I could find no ethanol real gas near me. I swear by stabil. If I know I'm not going to drive the car for more than a week, I fill it and add stabil. Been doing that with my motorcycles for years and never a problem.
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09-29-2021, 12:01 PM
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Kojack (et al),
Here's a reference to locations with no-ethanol gasoline for the US and Canada: https://www.pure-gas.org/
Maybe there's one close enough?
Tom
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09-29-2021, 12:54 PM
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Haffner's in Hudson, NH sells CAM2 Leaded 110 at the pump.
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09-29-2021, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
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Haffner's in Hudson, NH sells CAM2 Leaded 110 at the pump.
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Did you add them to the list?
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