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Old 10-26-2021, 07:35 AM
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Default Cobra 427 tool kit - updated pictures

Hi all. I had posted an old/incorrect picture on my previous thread with, as Jim pointed out, the wrong tools.

I had used that set of tools for my Saturday morning coffee and cars show and tell.

Here are pics with what I believe are the correct tool set, although with a new bag and an incorrect Tommy Bar.

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Old 10-26-2021, 02:03 PM
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I can’t read the size markings on the wrenches. Are they Whitworth?
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Hi sd427. Yes they are.

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Old 10-26-2021, 06:08 PM
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Vincent motorcycles used Jenbro brand wrenches. The pliers appear to be a different brand, but remarkably similar.
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Old 10-26-2021, 07:12 PM
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Hi Greg. Sure there must be more to your story. Through all the years of my concours judging at the conventions I obviously never saw an NAF Cobra. Years ago in the 70's and eighties there were at least 10 to 15 cars that I had to go over without an assistant. I had no time to look at the other cars in the car corrals unless someone said there was a great car that I just had to see. I have two complete original tool kits one came with my car in 1973 when I bought it and the other was given to me by my dear friend before he sold his Cobra and his collection of GT-40's. I have had numerous face offs with owners and handlers about tool kits. I have discussed at length with British tool specialists , vendors, about time frames, applications, trends etc. Having a very early 427 car and the tool kit from a very late 427 CSX 3358 which are the same, it makes me fairly sure that I have the tool kit for 427 car correct. I have also probably judged or been employed to survey over 125 427 cars according to my judging sheet records. The wrenches in your secondary file of photos does have both the British Standard and Whitworth markings as they should but in a slightly different orientation. In the recent past, I have seen numerous photo displays of components on the internet at local concours from Boston to Greenwich to Meadowbrook, to Pebble claiming to have an expert certify that they are absolutely original - perfect correct. As mentioned in previous posts my very patient brother traveled on the Government's dime numerous times to the AC factory, Spain, and Germany, hauling Cobra components for me in the 60's even before i owned my Cobra. I have the Elora wrenches in unopened cardboard boxes with the waxed paper and multiple Elora stamps bought in the 60's. I have read with fascination your research concerning the Goodyear tires. I have read your original manuscript that you submitted before Kopec worked it over. He had said you have to see this. It was wonderful. Only a sick guy like myself could appreciate it, he said. Good luck with you sales and maybe someday we will meet at a show, you'll recognize me being yelled out by someone claiming to be the local originality expert. Good evening
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Hi patty442. Would love to learn more about tool kit originality and your tool kits and see pictures. A lot has been written on these forums about tool kits over the years and it's all about learning the history.

I have many different versions of these wrenches too and would love to know which ones are "right".

Thanks for your comments about my Goodyear chronicle. It was really fun and really enjoyed meeting and talking with all the great people who helped with their input.

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Greg, just thought I'd throw this in here. This is what my brake bleeder wrench looks like.

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So Larry. That wrench looks like it has an expanded hex socket. Am I seeing the picture right?
While mine has a swaged hex socket. Could there have been two different configurations?

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So Larry. That wrench looks like it has an expanded hex socket. Am I seeing the picture right?
While mine has a swaged hex socket. Could there have been two different configurations?

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Not that I’m aware of but there have been variations in some of the tools in original kits. I’ve only ever seen the original brake bleeder tool like the one I posted though.

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Still trying to understand Larry. Is your wrench an expanded hex or a swaged hex?

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The hex is expanded.

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Thanks Larry. So a well known Cobra parts supplier claimed to be making reproductions.

Reproduction yes. Just not an accurate one.

Darn.

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Thanks Larry. So a well known Cobra parts supplier claimed to be making reproductions.

Reproduction yes. Just not an accurate one.

Darn.

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I don’t like to knock others work (unless they’re represented as 100% accurate when they’re not) of course but…. Yes!
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Thanks Larry. So, while my tool kit may be nice, with some accurate pieces, it is not 100% accurate.

Back to work.

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Tool kit and jack are SOLD.

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