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Post By mr bruce
06-21-2023, 04:41 AM
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For the Coyote guys
I stumbled across this picture that was captioned as being a Coyote engine with custom valve covers and intake. The valve covers reminded me of the Cammer so I thought I'd share here. I have no info on the source.
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06-21-2023, 05:37 AM
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I believe they are or were a one off items that were first seen on a 1932 Roadster Pickup at SEMA in the Raybestos booth back in 2010 or 2011. Perhaps someone stepped up to the plate to machine another set of adapters, but I have not seen them commercially available.
Bill S.
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06-21-2023, 08:26 AM
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It's both interesting and reassuring that even as advanced and capable as the last hurrah generations of the performance IC V8's from the big 3 have become, there's still enough of a consumer driven market for bolt-ons that allow hot rodders to exploit that performance while replicating the look and charisma of the engines from the glory days (as I bow my head in a brief moment of reverent silence). I've seen some really nice "vintage-look" stuff bolted onto both the Coyote and the Chevy LS engines. Imagine having the awe-inspiring look of the cammer and an engine that you can enjoy without worrying about that mile-long chain crapping out and totalling a $60K motor? Priceless!
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06-21-2023, 08:58 AM
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get yerself a coyote rocker cover gasket, and a cammer rocker cover gasket, a slab of 1/2" aluminum plate, bandsaw or jigsaw and some auto trans fluid to keep the blade(s) cool, and make 'em yerself. AND the coyote is a cammer too, has 4 of them, and I ain't measured one yet, but the timing chains ar probably as long as a cammer
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06-21-2023, 09:48 AM
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Absolutely right Mr. Bruce! With the Coyote though, one tends to think turn the key and drive mostly worry free. Whenever I think of the old 427 SOHC "cammer" I have flashbacks of stories I've read - two on this site alone - about expensive engines that all ended sadly when they stretched or broke their timing chains and shat engine parts and oil on the pavement.
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06-21-2023, 10:51 AM
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With the proliferation of 3d scanners and printers, I think it wouldn't be much of a challenge for an entrepreneur to make and sell these if he could get a pair to work from.
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06-21-2023, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Absolutely right Mr. Bruce! With the Coyote though, one tends to think turn the key and drive mostly worry free. Whenever I think of the old 427 SOHC "cammer" I have flashbacks of stories I've read - two on this site alone - about expensive engines that all ended sadly when they stretched or broke their timing chains and shat engine parts and oil on the pavement.
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Coyotes are not without their own set(s) of problems. In fact, they have more chains than a Cammer — four of them, instead of just one! The Cammer certainly has its tender spots, but so does almost any engine we can get today.
From their 100 mm bore center with 92.2 mm bores that only leaves 7.8 mm of gasket surface (~0.3 inches) between cylinders to seal combustion pressures ( before chamfering the top of the bores), to an oiling system that oils the overhead cams last in the oiling priority with a secondary chain drive for the intake cams that is tender and easily broken, Coyotes have their own set of tender spots that can easily cost you an engine. Then, of course, when you buy cams, you just don't buy a cam; you buy four cams.
Each engine has its own atta-boys and its own frustrations. Frequently you find yourself just trading one devil for another ...
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06-22-2023, 08:56 PM
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Wow - no love for the poor old Coyote! So maybe someone should machine up a set of SOHC cammer valve cover adapters to fit the chevy LS motors. They make great power and no big long timing chains to worry about. Perfect for a Cobra replica!
On a serious note though, most of the die hard Ford guys may not have heard about the new LT6 in the C8 Z06. Flat plane crank, 670 hp at 8,400 rpm and 460 lb-ft at 6,300 rpm. All motor no blowers, which makes it the most powerful naturally aspirated production V8 ever. A blown version will debut shortly in the upcoming ZR-1 which promises to be an absolute beast. Electric motors may soon be taking over with the rise of rocketship luxury sedans like the Lucid Air, but before that happens hopefully we'll see one last set of awe-inspiring gas guzzling ICE's from the big three. The pinnacle of fossil-fuel performance cars is fast approaching.
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06-23-2023, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
I believe they are or were a one off items that were first seen on a 1932 Roadster Pickup at SEMA in the Raybestos booth back in 2010 or 2011. Perhaps someone stepped up to the plate to machine another set of adapters, but I have not seen them commercially available.
Bill S.
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Hollywood Hot Rods sells them. Last time I checked in they were $1,800 or so.
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