Club Cobra GasN Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
February 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28  

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree13Likes
  • 3 Post By eschaider
  • 1 Post By twobjshelbys
  • 1 Post By mptech
  • 1 Post By Dominik
  • 1 Post By mrmustang
  • 2 Post By mr bruce
  • 1 Post By mr bruce
  • 1 Post By MOTORHEAD
  • 1 Post By mrmustang
  • 1 Post By eschaider

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 12:33 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast Cobra, 302 Clevor, C6
Posts: 7
Not Ranked     
Default Cobra Body Identification

Group I am looking at a cobra body my buddy offered me for sale. He stated he knows nothing about the body. It was supposedly removed to replace with an aluminum body. I am trying to identify so I can finish the car. These are the only photos currently available. I do not have any measurements yet. Thanks for any assistance.
Attached Images
    
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 12:55 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain, CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
Posts: 3,022
Not Ranked     
Default

The outer shell doesn't tell us much. Any pictures of the inner doors/hood/trunk and the underneath of the main body?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 01:00 PM
eschaider's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
Posts: 2,738
Not Ranked     
Default

You are going to have to build everything else, so the actual make of the car is not important. Build the chassis to fit what you have.

What you are doing is like purchasing a windshield washer arm and then inquiring what car it came off of so you can rebuild a car to fit the arm. The task before you is a huge undertaking for a skilled and experienced replica builder. We have a special section on the site called the scratch builders forum for those so inclined. The job is daunting in the extreme!

If you are looking for a low-cost (whatever that is) way into Cobra ownership, the path you are taking is the wrong path. Sell that body, for starters. Goto bringatrailer.com, find something you like and can afford, and buy it!

If you can't afford anything, there is a subtle message there, waiting for you. Pay attention to it! If you think you can do a home-brewed version of the car cheaper than you can buy one, you are being delusional — get professional help.
twobjshelbys, Alfa02 and JTMCOBRA like this.
__________________


Help them do what they would have done if they had known what they could do.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 01:56 PM
twobjshelbys's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,607
Not Ranked     
Default

What Ed said.

To identify the body you need to post more pictures of the interior, esp. foot box, engine compartment and trunk and frame at a minimum

But what Ed said is correct. Unless you are already a skilled fabricator, you severely underestimate the amount of work to create the underpinnings - frame, brakes, steering, etc. of a cobra to wrap up with this body. Unless you can identify the body and perhaps buy a body-minus setup from that original manufacturer the road you face is not going to be a cheap path to a Cobra. Oh and let's not forget all of the special tools you'll need to buy that you will only use once. Add another 25-30% overhead for that.
eschaider likes this.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony
CSX4005LA

Last edited by twobjshelbys; 08-11-2023 at 02:02 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 11:05 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 120
Not Ranked     
Default

Looks like a Factory Five MK2 or MK3 / MK3.1), based on the trunk hinges and the brake duct mounting holes, hood opening edges, location of the hood handles, and molded hood scoop. (those are pretty unique features the the earlier FFR bodies).
rakkasan83 likes this.

Last edited by mptech; 08-11-2023 at 11:11 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-11-2023, 11:48 PM
Dominik's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cape Town, South Africa/Mainz, Germany,
Posts: 1,601
Not Ranked     
Default

Check the wheelbase and find a chassis to match. You might find that the reading is either 90" or 92", perhaps 95". Any chassis will "fit" under it. With "fit" I mean, it won't.

But you can find a way to attach it to a chassis. Same as the former owner managed to fit an ally body to his chassis.

Don't you have pictures of the chassis where this came off?
rakkasan83 likes this.
__________________
If I don't respond anymore, that's because I can't log in
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 05:43 AM
mrmustang's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
Gold Star Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville, SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,740
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mptech View Post
Looks like a Factory Five MK2 or MK3 / MK3.1), based on the trunk hinges and the brake duct mounting holes, hood opening edges, location of the hood handles, and molded hood scoop. (those are pretty unique features the the earlier FFR bodies).

Agreed, this is a factory five body shell.



Bill S.
rakkasan83 likes this.
__________________
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.

First time Cobra buyers-READ THIS
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 05:49 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: penn.,
Posts: 2,559
Not Ranked     
Default

guys in Sweden or some of the other northern European countrys were putting Cobra bodys on GM "G" body chassis/ drivetrain after shortening them, track width is pretty close with the rite wheel offsets and sizes. They did it this way because of EU regulation, must use real car frames over there. Doing it that way won't meet the critics here of being a cobra, but if you get the body cheep enough and have the time and energy, go for it. qwik look at craiglist/Facebook Market Place might get you a whole g body car with the drivetrain for under a grand. I had a contact for the proces, but that was years ago, Google is your freind.
joyridin' and rakkasan83 like this.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 06:33 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: penn.,
Posts: 2,559
Not Ranked     
Default

found pdf files on this computer on how it's done, not alot but if you're a little mechanical you could figure them out, This project wouldn't be for a beginner, so if you can't weld or fabricate , forgettabouit. heck i might do it just to prove it can be done, now where's that craiglist ad I saw last week
Alfa02 likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 07:36 AM
MOTORHEAD's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
Posts: 1,396
Not Ranked     
Default

I agree with the FFR diagnosis, so buy a FFR chassis . easy peasy.
rakkasan83 likes this.
__________________
"When Injustice becomes Law,
Rebellion becomes Duty." T. Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 08:23 AM
mrmustang's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
Gold Star Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville, SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,740
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MOTORHEAD View Post
I agree with the FFR diagnosis, so buy a FFR chassis . easy peasy.
I'm thinking, build a birdcage to support the body, then find an early bronco rolling frame (also 90" wheelbase friendly at 92" stock)..........


Bill S.
eschaider likes this.
__________________
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.

First time Cobra buyers-READ THIS
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 08-12-2023, 10:25 AM
eschaider's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
Posts: 2,738
Not Ranked     
Default

I think it would be easier for you and probably less expensive to just buy an FFR car (if that's what you want) in some state of disrepair, with the expectation that the disrepair will only need a manageable level of TLC. The job would probably be quicker, easier, and less expensive.

If you were a fabricator, chances are you would not be asking the questions you are. That means your fabrication skills toolbox is essentially bereft of experience and skills. This is a very big warning flag. You might do well to pay attention to it.
twobjshelbys likes this.
__________________


Help them do what they would have done if they had known what they could do.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink