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Post By Buzz
09-26-2024, 03:22 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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Suspension ride comparison
Is there much difference in ride quality among the multitudes of cobra cars out there? Is it simply a matter of fine tuning what ever setup you have or is there a best fundamental set up. Donor car setups v purpose built chassis/suspension designs.
I have been in one donor car setup and whilst it was ok, what’s the best.
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09-26-2024, 05:29 AM
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Location: Clayton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 838
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Huge difference among cars. Some ride like a 3/4 ton truck and some quite smooth, yet firm.
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09-26-2024, 01:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Cobras are required to have a suspension that you can drive over a nickel and differentiate not only between heads or tails but Jefferson or Indian head.
If you want a smooth ride get a Corvette.
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09-26-2024, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427, 482ci sideoiler
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Cobra replicas vary from one manufacturer to the next and to some extent by generations within a manufacturer. As a general rule independent rear suspension will have a more forgiving ride over solid rear axel cars. Cars setup for racing will have a stiffer ride than the same car sprung and setup for street use. A suspension system with more travel will generally absorb irregularities in the road better than those with less travel. This just scratches the surface of what affects the perceived ride comfort. Also, your perspective and tolerance will play into your decision. This is my opinion, as I’m no expert on Cobras or vehicle chassis and suspension.
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09-26-2024, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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My ERA rides great IMO. I would rank it above my 66 Corvette which is all rebuilt.
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09-27-2024, 06:30 AM
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Whilst I appreciate that cobras in general have a firm ride, I was trying to understand whether an Absolute pace suspension setup for example would be a more refined ride to say a cobra with a jag rear end and a opal front end. (Not sure if that combination is available) . I know our Land Rover discovery rides better than our Toyota Land Cruiser, both 2023 models.
I am a novice when it comes to understanding the intricacies of the effect of sway bars, different types coil over shocks, shock mountings, etc
If the goal is to have smooth ride with minimal body roll, excellent grip and no bone jarring hits, what cobra car available to the masses gets the closest.
Appreciate the feedback
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09-27-2024, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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There's been some interesting discussion about suspension setups for Cobras over the years. Theres a general consensus that the replicas with independent rear suspensions have a better basic combination of ride and handling than the live-axle cars, but beyond that, theres lots of debate.
In my experience with a Jag IRS car - which most of our IRS Cobras use or are based on - I bought it with an MGB-based front suspension and while it rode nicely enough, the steering was just not up to par with the speed and acceleration capabilities.
I upgraded to a custom coil-over front suspension that included a front sway bar and the improvement was like night and day. The ride was supple and comfortable with great balance and cornering grip and my only concern was that there was a small bit of body roll in hard cornering that allowed my rear tires to rub the inner fenders at the lower ride height settings.
The next logical step therefore was to look into adding a rear sway bar and possibly stiffer springs. I'd seen photos posted here of other members' Cobras jacked up near the front and lifting both the front and rear tires clear off the garage floor. That seemed odd to me - what happens in a hard, uneven corner if the front wheel lifts? Does the rear tire lose contact as well because theres no flexibility and drop in such a super-stiff setup?
To shorten a long story, research led me to the conclusion that a predominantly street-driven sports car with an independent rear suspension needs a bit flexibility built in to allow the IRS to do its thing and provide a comfortable ride while keeping the rear tires planted and in contact with the road during spirited driving. Making the rear suspension too stiff cancels out the advantages gained by having independently articulating rear axles.
So in the end, I left out the rear sway bar, added adjustable rear coil-over shocks and a custom rear trailing arm setup and adjusted the ride height just enough to eliminate the tire-rubbing in all but the most extreme cornering. While I lost a bit of the really low stance that was more appealing to my eye, I ended up with an amazingly comfortable car that really stuck to the road both while turning in and hammering out of corners. During hard acceleration, the rear squatted slightly but traction was as good as could be expected of a 90 inch wheelbase Cobra and I had no problems with wheel hop.
For a track-focused car with raw handling and traction taking priority over ride comfort, the setup would be completely different and there are some legitimate experts here who can articulate the details and particulars.
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09-27-2024, 05:38 PM
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Thankyou for the detailed on point response.
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10-05-2024, 04:13 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Question for ya, Buzz...
...did you upgrade to Unique's newer coil-over front end or an aftermarket piece? Seems I remember seeing somewhere that you got it from Unique Motorcars...
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1964 289 5-bolt block
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10-05-2024, 11:27 AM
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I upgraded to Unique's front suspension setup. Complete system bolted right in, brakes and all. The difference was beyond night and day. In the end, everyone who rode in or drove my Cobra was amazed by the unexpected ride comfort and cornering manners.
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