Real Cobra for sale on Ebay?

[ediamond]

I was browsing Ebay and came across this car for sale. Is this a true story? I thought that I'd leave you with something to "play with" on this cold rainy night. Hey its Canada, I am just happy its not snowing


VIN: 6f08c259774

Lussier Motorsports has been hired to sell this
1966 Shelby Cobra Convertible
Built in '66 and raced from 67-71!
Please read the history of this unique and authentic race car.

The Story

In the mid 60's, Ron Brooks was a member of Shelby's team building the famous CSX Series Shelby Cobras. Brooks and Shelby parted company in 1966 and Brooks opened up Brooks Racing across the street from Shelby's shop. Brooks began building Cobras and Racing them against Shelby's Cobras. One of the Ford engineers that was involved with both Shelby and the Brooks Racing Team bought this car after it was retired from the Brooks racing team. It was sold a few years later. Just a few years ago, the same Ford engineers found the car again, purchased it and restored it to it's original state including all the original race car markings and numbers. It is now for sale again, complete with it's Racing history directly from one of the eye witnesses! This car is in Super nice shape, detailed to show car quality. It's Fast and it is an authentic 1966 Cobra Race car.

THE "STATS"

"A" production - wide body mark 4 built in 1966 this car was raced from 1967 - 1971

It has a 351-M400 Ford that is race prepped. New engine in 1998, balanced all new parts - engine built by Mark Dembrowski - NASCAR engine builder.

Rear - triangulated 4 bars - coilovers and coils - front adjustable coilovers.

Radiator - 4-core front with 3400 CFM electric fan - rear under body radiator, front trans cooler with B&M filter also front oil cooler. Has 13” S/S flex engine fan. trans, is FMX ford automatic built by B&M.

Car has convertible top, T. cover and a roll bar. It has a clear Florida 66 Ford title. This is not a kit, 4 of these cars were produced and caused many problems with the Shelby Company. Since rebuilding this car it has just over 5 K miles it is very fast but street legal! It has won over 35 trophies and shows well.

Lussier Motorsports specializes in Corvettes and other exotic sports cars. We represent only the cleanest high performance vehicles. We offer a 100% Money back guaranty. Upon arrival, if you feel that we did not describe the vehicle accurately, please refuse it and have the vehicle shipped back to our store. You will be responsible for shipping charges only. There are many Cobra Replicas in the market today but there aren't any that have Race history and that are as close to authentic original Shelby as this one! Considering how unique this Cobra is and how clean it is. It is a very reasonable price! We set a LOW reserve and run a fair auction. Please do not call and ask our reserve price as we will not disclose it to be fair to all bidders. We will be happy to answer all other questions. To e mail questions feel free to contact dan@lussiermotorsports.com

Below we show what today's current book value is according to the most accurate source

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[pk]

okay I'll start.

1) csx ???? (if you blow up the interior shot it looks like the plate has been scratched- to cover up the number)

2) recently "restored" by someone who has never seen a real cobra (the correct sidepipes, dash, gauges etc...)

3) 351 w is a nice engine but so wrong here as a "restored" csx

4) nice fog lights



My guess -this is Justine's car (it is a blackcobra)

-pk

[mr bruce]

Wrong Vin Number.Factory Five would be real interested in this car ,if this fellow Brooks was building replica Shelby Cobras back in '66, rite across the street from the old grouch himself!!!

[Sonny]

A replica is a replica no matter. AC had started building cars at the same period of Brooks, stopped by injunctions then restarted them later. I was building them in 1973-1976, so big deal unless you are certain ones that chime in that Steve Arntz was the first replica builder. They will be here in the future also, as long as there is a demand. It's a fine design, captures the spirit of the era, and just looks Bad to the Bone. Enjoy years of replicas to come, being more refined every year.
Thanks for the info for those who didn't know of this lineage, I've been documenting every tidbit I come across in this arena since CS built the first one.

[mr bruce]

Car carries the vin. from a 1966 Mustang, humph! Buyer beware!

[mrmustang]

I've been waiting for an answer to my original email to these folks:

"Is the car aluminum or fiberglass?"



Bill S.

PS: Loved the serial number too, as Mustang production numbers out of Dearborn ran from 100001 to 744183 in 1966....Wonder what the local DMV would say about this one..................

[ediamond]

Give these guys credit for marketing.....they have the price up to $34,000 already and the one Kruse keeps marketing with a 427SO has only his $27,100 so far. Someone please 'splain this to me (was PT Barnum right?).

[Bill Wells]

seller is doing it with mirrors and smoke screens in my opinion...as a PR wag once told me..."sometimes ya gotta perfume the pig"...gotta believe that

Personal guess/opinion only here but whatever it is has a f'glass body is my guess .Suspect also that there is no , or limited , factual historical written documentation .

It is also using a 1966 Ford Mustang convertible serial number , "6F08C"xxxxxx equates to a Dearborn built 1966 Mustang convertible with 289 two barrel engine. This is surprisingly commonly done, hopefully from a previously reported scrapped car, otherwise somewhere in the country there are two or more cars with same serial running around. Is this what some of those east coast or other area companies do that retitle a newer car as a 65 or 66 ?

oh well...buyer beware with any vehicle purchase, be it new or used. eBay is always interesting to follow as some dogs bring big bucks and some strong pieces get low bids, ya just never know ! and many items advertised by the seller as legit turn out later to be anything but...Bill.

[computerworks]

Originally posted by ediamond
.... Someone please 'splain this to me (was PT Barnum right?).

My guess is this mutt won't sell and will be relisted in a week.
Price is being bid up by an eBay user with no history ('sunglass' icon next to bidder name means rookie bidder)
...smells like a shill.

[Bill Wells]

ya never know if it is legit or not... I have seen it go both ways as real or not. a friend recently sold a 56 Bird for $35K on ebay to a buyer who likewise had no prior buy or sell history..check was good and car was delivered 3 days after the auction ended ! however, many more shills show up running the bids up with car later being relisted. another friend 'sold', he thought, his 70 Shelby GT 350 on ebay to a guy with history and as it turned out , NO credit so deal went sour and he lost the sale. This thing is now at $34K with reserve MET...time will tell if deal is good or bogus as 2+ days to go and chances are if it is not relisted we will never know the true fate ! just like horse trading of yesteryear I guess. B

[greenwater]

Originally posted by Sonny
A replica is a replica no matter. AC had started building cars at the same period of Brooks, stopped by injunctions then restarted them later. I was building them in 1973-1976, so big deal unless you are certain ones that chime in that Steve Arntz was the first replica builder. They will be here in the future also, as long as there is a demand. It's a fine design, captures the spirit of the era, and just looks Bad to the Bone. Enjoy years of replicas to come, being more refined every year.
Thanks for the info for those who didn't know of this lineage, I've been documenting every tidbit I come across in this arena since CS built the first one.

Sony B,

It would be interesting to many of CC members that you tell us more what you know about Brooks cars!

My understandings from the advertisement is if Brooks indeed had built only few cars in 66 ,after being affiliated with Shelby, made a lot of sense that he would have used frames and bodies from AC.....Only this would make this car very desirable and still very cheap at 35K! Don't mind the wrong side pipes and gauges....

In anycase a 427 (or 289) fibreglass body built back in 1966 if that is true makes it by far the oldest one as all I've heard of is more early 70s.

So anyone can say what mr. Brooks frames/suspensions looked like? What is bodies were made of?

[mr bruce]

It is against FEDERAL law to transfer VIN. numbers from one car to another. Any comments from our law enforcement members on what happens to your car when the auto squad finds you out?

[Specialk]

This car does have a fiberglass body. It is definately not anything like an original. Didn't the M series engines come out after 1970 some time? You can see it has dual reservoir brakes and hanging pedals. The back corners of the hood opening are squared off for the hood latch.

[Sonny]

Guys, I'm currently trying to get the lowdown on this car, pity a unsuspecting buyer gets this car, it's a "scam car" as we call 'em here in Texas. The few cars that were produced right after CSE stopped production were actually AC bodied units, and built of bits and pieces from racing inventories to pass SCCA/USRRC for real "local" racing, this ain't one of those either. As CS has stated openly, anyone that can document our full line of Cobras are "full of crap", and he's right. The frame on this car is not right, along with too many other items on this car. By the way it was legal to customize a car down to the area of the body id tag in the 60's even in CA. I'll follow up later.