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Post By Jac Mac
11-18-2012, 08:17 AM
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Don't buy chinese junk engine parts!
This is what chinese "bearings" look like after one year of use in a mild hydraulic roller application (less than 300lbs open pressure).
One came apart completely, all others looked like the one in the third picture.
Every single tool or car part made in china I've ever seen was nothing but pure useless junk. If it reads "China" somewhere on the packaging or part it means "designed and manufactured to meet and exceed strict standards that guarantee this product to fail and cause as much damage as possible"
It is a big miracle to me how an economy that produces nothing but 100% garbage can be the worlds leading export nation.
However for gods sake don't buy these crap Cat rocker arms, or any other chinese product. The sooner people begin to quit buying this cheap trash the bigger the chance that in 10 years from now there will still be something like quality available. Don't support China!
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11-18-2012, 09:36 AM
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
Wait till they start manufacturing complete passenger jets.
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11-18-2012, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carmine
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Wait till they start manufacturing complete passenger jets.
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ouch!!
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11-18-2012, 10:51 AM
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and twinkies!
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11-18-2012, 11:13 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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I've been researching Connecting Rods for 289 or Boss 302. Unless I want to build a stroker, Crower and perhaps Carrillo are the only players as far as I can tell(???)
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11-18-2012, 12:01 PM
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Shouldnt you be directing your anger at the companies/outlets that import & sell this stuff, they are the ones making the $$$ & standing back with a smug look while you blast the chinese! No doubt about it the chinese have a bad rep in regard to bearing manufacture & quality, but if you guys did not 'want' the cheap stuff then the importers would not have a market to supply....you get what you pay for.
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11-18-2012, 12:13 PM
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Well said jac. One of the 2 named will get my $$.
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11-18-2012, 12:34 PM
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We know they are junk, why buy them. (less than 300lbs. open pressure)! were you running Beehives with Chinese junk?
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11-18-2012, 12:36 PM
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Shredded Pontiacs & Oldsmobiles.
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11-18-2012, 01:52 PM
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I learned a long time ago that I can't afford cheap parts. They're too expensive.
The other part is supporting American companies. They're the one's who developed those parts. The Chinese simply copied them. If you want Edelbrock, Crower, Comp Cams, etc, to keep developing new parts, they need your business.
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11-18-2012, 03:29 PM
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I had them on a 440 Chrysler engine for over 4 years without a problem. It wasn't raced or anything and had a killer hydraulic cam, but they worked well.
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11-18-2012, 05:42 PM
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I will chime in based on experience.
Scat rods and cranks are top notch in my book. I use them predominantly in almost every engine that I do. Callies advertises that their Dragonslayer cranks (which I've used as well) have journals that measure within .0003" of each other.
I have never seen a Scat out more than that either....
In all the Scat cranks and rods that I've used, I've had to send back one single rod. Not bad.
Now Eagle on the other hand....I ordered 3 crankshafts for a BBF and they all had nicks in the journals and out of round journal dimensions. I've also heard Barry Rabotnick say that he's seen a hand full of FE crankshafts fail...and most of them were Eagles.
CAT and Pro Comp are nothing but utter pieces of junk.
I've seen Pro Comp distributors fail, I've seen the roller rocker arms seize up on the dyno, I've seen the valve cover bolts on their heads drilled so far off that it causes valve cover/rocker arm issues.
Junk.
The bad thing is that I get slammed on various forums for saying these things. It's a shame that people have to find out for themselves.
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11-18-2012, 10:51 PM
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My Mom said to me long ago.."Good parts are not cheap and cheap parts are not good". Actually she said it about tools but the same theory applies. Sorry to hear of your failure.
John
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11-19-2012, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
I will chime in based on experience.
Scat rods and cranks are top notch in my book. I use them predominantly in almost every engine that I do. Callies advertises that their Dragonslayer cranks (which I've used as well) have journals that measure within .0003" of each other.
I have never seen a Scat out more than that either....
In all the Scat cranks and rods that I've used, I've had to send back one single rod. Not bad.
Now Eagle on the other hand....I ordered 3 crankshafts for a BBF and they all had nicks in the journals and out of round journal dimensions. I've also heard Barry Rabotnick say that he's seen a hand full of FE crankshafts fail...and most of them were Eagles.
CAT and Pro Comp are nothing but utter pieces of junk.
I've seen Pro Comp distributors fail, I've seen the roller rocker arms seize up on the dyno, I've seen the valve cover bolts on their heads drilled so far off that it causes valve cover/rocker arm issues.
Junk.
The bad thing is that I get slammed on various forums for saying these things. It's a shame that people have to find out for themselves.
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Blykins u da man, Scat rules, some of my favorite food comes from china...
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