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Old 07-23-2013, 10:25 AM
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Has anyone used them for what they are designed to do? I don't think I would trust the bolts and the way they mount to the frame, but using them would make working on the car a lot easier until the lift goes in.

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Old 07-23-2013, 10:51 AM
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Do not use the lift jacks. While the bolts could be changed to Grade 8s, the connection to the chassis is not strong enough (IMHO) to prevent things from bending and perhaps cracking the fiberglass, etc....

Use proper jackstands under the chassis frame. It's one thing to come roaring into the pits at Riverside Raceway (circa 1964) to change tires, it's another to be lying on a gurney under a car supported only by a couple of bolts

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X2 on what Jim said .
Do NOT use them as support when you`re under the car.
I have used them ( both ) to pull mine up on a rollback when they couldn`t get under the car . The difference is the bolts are in tension and you`re only fighting rolling resistance up a ramp vs a shear load . Four bolts in shear with about 2000 lbs on them ???? No way .
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Yes - on the rears - Grade 8 - bent the bolts. I did not ruin anything, but had more than ample opportunity.

Will not be trying again.

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Have used mine but the frame has extra tubing to support. You can see the black # 98 cobra up on stands if you look up pictures SAAC 38. The spec racers and comp cars from the old finishline motorsports have the extra tubing. Like to know more about the jack stands used by the car at SAAC, homemade or purchased?
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X2 on what Jim said .
Do NOT use them as support when you`re under the car.
I have used them ( both ) to pull mine up on a rollback when they couldn`t get under the car.
This is the reason to carry a 6' nylon tow strap, by the way......
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I can't speek for any other manufacturers, but Superformance specifically states in their owners manual that these are not to be used to raise the car.

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I just use mine to bust my shins while walking around the car. Its happened more than once. I have actually dropped to the floor because of the pain.

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I would never trust anything holding the car up with out jack stands under the car, I was just seeing if anyone used them to get the car off the ground to get the stands under the car. It seems it would be easier then jacking under the car.

And yes i have banged my legs on them more then once.

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I just use mine to bust my shins while walking around the car. Its happened more than once. I have actually dropped to the floor because of the pain.

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You can minimize that by reversing them-hook side toward body. Many comp cars were like that. Even in front.
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Not to hi-jak, but has anyone used a front attachment point for a tow hook. It seems the load would be in tension.

Any re-inforcement used?

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Just letting that thing back down to the ground looks like a good way to knock your teeth right through the top of your skull..... :O

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Those days were just great. We tried to simulate with a piece of pipe and a jack which was incorrect because of the bending moment at the center of the pipe.

Slight bend in pipe also.
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Slight bend in pipe also.
Remington knew what he was doing. The contact areas are doubled with small sections of pipe to fit the hooks. Larger diameter pipe for the cross-piece. And the bend is for additional tin clearance on small nose cars.
Worked great-one guy, one yank and it's up.
***Note also, the hooks are reversed...
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I was at the Shelby American collection and asked Dave about them. He said that they were essential on the track for speed but even then the bolt/rod would flex and deform the metal around the hole. Not a problem with aluminum but nothi g good for glass or cf. I was going to make one from theirs but decided against it
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ERA 2076 , refer to my earlier post on this .... I think the 3rd one down . I`ve down it before to get the car on a rollback ( broke a valve spring ) . Just don`t do any sudden jerks or try a vertical lift .
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ERA 2076 , refer to my earlier post
oops - missed it

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I am going to Fabricate a set of quick jacks for my Cobra FFR roadster. I am thinking of making them out of Stainless Steel. Does any one have full size pattern or a print with dimensions that they would be willing to share with me? Thanks Mike mhawk69@gmail.com
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The sheet metal area around the mounts where the bolts passed theough the lift jacks and into the frame tubes was relieved (cut out around the mounting holes) to allow for flexing of the sub structure.
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