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Post By 66gtk
10-18-2014, 01:17 PM
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1966 Shelby GT350 Hertz with 572 horses
I thought you Shelby Mustang fans might want to check out this sweet GT350 that will be auctioned off soon. 1966 Mustang Shelby GT350 Hertz Race Car - Monterey Car Week
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10-19-2014, 08:44 AM
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Has the car been rebodied? The statement "The most noticeable change to the car, which was built around a new all-steel body..." certainly makes it seem so.
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10-19-2014, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Racer_X
Has the car been rebodied? The statement "The most noticeable change to the car, which was built around a new all-steel body..." certainly makes it seem so.
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Yup, a complete rebody
Now that it is in print, the value of the car just went down by 50%
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10-19-2014, 09:12 AM
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Then legally it should be titled and advertised as a "clone" or "tribute" car, shouldn't it? If it were in Texas, they'd certainly have their hands full of title issues.
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10-19-2014, 09:26 AM
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If you buy a new body, fenders, engine trans and interior, and build a new/old 66 Mustang, how is it registered when you go for a title? I would assume if the body is sold without a MSO, then it is considered to be a replacement body and somewhat legal to switch VIN tags. If the body is sold with a MSO so you can literally build a car from scratch, then I would think switching those tags might be a bit illegal.
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10-19-2014, 09:40 AM
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Vin switching is a huge no-no in Texas. Just Google "Unique Performance", the shop that created the Gone in 60 Seconds remake Eleanor 1967 Mustang. The Texas DMV came in and shut them down and all of the cars and shop was auctioned off back in 2007.
I recall there was another shop in Oklahoma accused of the same thing.
I'm not saying it isn't done, but to be so popular and in the public eye makes it very visible and under scrutiny, no matter how select the wording of the ads.
Usually if no MSO, then it's either a "homebuilt" or the state affixes their own "Vin" to the chassis and the old vin is no longer recognized for the title.
Then there is sometimes "Title Washing" that occurs. Sell the car in a state that doesn't track the old car titles. Some states only require a bill of sale to register it. Then turn around and title it in a state as a transfer from the bill of sale state and Voila! you have a "legally" titled vehicle.
Back on topic - Nice car and I'd like to see the dyno sheet and a component list to see how they achieved almost 600 HP from 295 cu. in. normally aspirated?
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10-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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That's Scotty Hackenson's old Vintage Race Car. If anybody can squeeze that power out, the folks at Cobra Automotive can. This car had many many podium finishes.
Chassis SFM6S564. 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 chassis information
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10-19-2014, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer_X
Vin switching is a huge no-no in Texas. Just Google "Unique Performance", the shop that created the Gone in 60 Seconds remake Eleanor 1967 Mustang. The Texas DMV came in and shut them down and all of the cars and shop was auctioned off back in 2007.
I recall there was another shop in Oklahoma accused of the same thing.
I'm not saying it isn't done, but to be so popular and in the public eye makes it very visible and under scrutiny, no matter how select the wording of the ads.
Usually if no MSO, then it's either a "homebuilt" or the state affixes their own "Vin" to the chassis and the old vin is no longer recognized for the title.
Then there is sometimes "Title Washing" that occurs. Sell the car in a state that doesn't track the old car titles. Some states only require a bill of sale to register it. Then turn around and title it in a state as a transfer from the bill of sale state and Voila! you have a "legally" titled vehicle.
Back on topic - Nice car and I'd like to see the dyno sheet and a component list to see how they achieved almost 600 HP from 295 cu. in. normally aspirated?
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I remember that story, but if I recall, they were not using new bodies. They were taking the VIN off one car that may have been crispy and putting it on another body that already had a VIN.
In this case, they are buying a new body and doing what some consider to be a complete restoration. If you buy new fenders, quarters, floor, firewall, doors, engine trans etc. and do a "restoration" on an old car, it isn't a whole lot different what they did except they saved themselves a lot of labor welding everything back together.
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10-21-2014, 09:37 AM
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I don't see the big issue - the car is an original GT350 restored using a new body. I agree with joyridin' - no different than doing the same thing with a bunch of replacement sheet metal parts. Better, if anything. Naturally it won't have the same perceived pedigree or cachet as an untouched survivor with original body, paint, etc.
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10-21-2014, 10:13 AM
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10-25-2014, 01:25 AM
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I know it. Nice.
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