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09-08-2017, 02:48 AM
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CSX2431 Imperial Fuel Switch
Could anyone please provide me a detail picture of the Imperial Fuel Switch installed on CSX2431?
I’m interested on how it got labeled (it seems to me there is something written beside the switching positions) as this cannot be seen on the pictures available on the internet.
MANY THANKS
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09-08-2017, 07:14 PM
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09-09-2017, 11:16 AM
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Many thanks for this great pictures
I found something at one of the Cobra books
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09-09-2017, 12:40 PM
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Doesn't John Bessey have a few for sale?
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09-09-2017, 12:50 PM
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Hi Jeff
I have one. 
The question is only should I paint it or use the decals (as on Tom's post)
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09-09-2017, 05:07 PM
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Looks like from the photos:
The position of REV was moved
The painted REV was wiped off, except part of the R
The MAIN decal was placed over painted MAiN
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Hey you better change those bolts to locking nuts too! 
Larry
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09-10-2017, 05:31 PM
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Alfredo,
The valve you have is close in design but different than the originals that were used, note the silver cap on the original valve photo. The original valves had "IMPERIAL" embossed on the selector handle. The silver part on the original valve was actually a diecast aluminum part. I have provided a photo below.
There were a couple of different methods used to identify the valve handle position, you need to remember that the labeling was done for the benefit of the driver. The labeling of the last iteration of the SAI team competition 289 Cobras had the labeling placed on the dash. I will try to post photos of the labeling from 1963-1964.
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09-10-2017, 05:39 PM
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Here is the most common fastening method, either with the bolt head up or the nuts facing up.....
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09-10-2017, 06:09 PM
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FIA team 289 Cobra CSX2323 at the Nurburgring in 1964 just before it was wrecked......
The letters on the dash within the green box are for the fuel selector valve, "O" OFF, "M" MAIN and "R" RESERVE. There are other in period photos of other team Cobras that will show the same type of lettering but with the letters in different positions depending on how the mechanic building the race Cobra clocked the valve, there will be variances from car to car. There are also variances in locations, Miles had the selector valve diagram on the transmission tunnel behind the shifter on his Cobra where most of the FIA Cobras had them front and center on the dash.
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09-10-2017, 06:45 PM
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There were always variations that were dependent on the mechanic that was building the race car and how they installed the valve assembly. You could also find a "T" designating the selector valves handle position between the letters, similar to this example.....
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09-10-2017, 11:26 PM
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Hi John
Many thanks for the pictures and the details.
"IMPERIAL" is embossed on the selector handle (to visible on the picture)
For the moment it is OK for me with the wrong cap.
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09-11-2017, 12:26 AM
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Ken Miles had the safer location then, with the fuel line outside the cockpit rather than behind the dash.
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09-11-2017, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60
Ken Miles had the safer location then, with the fuel line outside the cockpit rather than behind the dash.
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As far as I am aware, Ken Miles Cobra was plumbed no differently than the other comp Cobras equipped with the fuel valve selector. His Cobra still had the switch and the fuel pressure gauge which was mounted in the dash, the only fuel line entering the interior of the car was the fuel pressure gauge plumbing.
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09-13-2017, 07:23 AM
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Now I understand what they have signed on the dash
It would help some times if I would search for details on the pictures I've on paper and not only on the PC.... 
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09-13-2017, 10:11 AM
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It would be much safer for the drivers to have the fuel lever selector positions up on the dash, the less time the drivers took their eyes off the road the better!
On another note Armado's photo shows the padlocked fuel cap and the Smiths Chronometric tachometer that were also used on the FIA Cobras (green circles).
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09-13-2017, 01:26 PM
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Hi John
You're right.
There is a Padlock on the gas cap using the same part you did provide to me.
After some investigation I diendtified the Padlock as a Slaymaker and I was able to find one
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09-13-2017, 04:10 PM
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Just fyi, the legends in the first photos posted are not decals - they are Dymo labels. 'Dymo' was a hand-held stamping machine that reverse-embossed a strip of coloured sticky plastic tape for home labelling purposes. It was very common for every use in the UK in the sixties, and was very often seen on racing car parts.
I'm just looking at my 40-yr-old Dymo machine now...
...seems like they're still about, but they've smartened up the design a bit:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Dymo-S07179...d=192118138289
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09-13-2017, 08:58 PM
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SAI tended to use, paint, DYMO labels or industrial decals to label their racing Cobras. Earlier race Cobras tended to use a mix of the first two methods and later FIA Cobras tended to receive the decals. I believe the markings at the selector valves was possibly done for the mechanics servicing the cars.
Alfredo,
Great find! Most all of the SAI team Cobras used a locking system for the fuel cap, even the Daytona Coups.
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