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Post By Tommy
06-29-2014, 04:12 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, 428SCJ
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Frying electric fans - Help
I have a Midstates Cobra with a 428 ci motor and C6 trans. Cooling has been an issue since I built this car. I have done multiple changes. Install a aluminium radiator, hig flow water pump, multiple thermostats from 150-195 degree, currently runnign a 165 degree. I have just cooked my 3rd electric fan. The last one I bought was a Spal 16" 2400cfm, all fans have been pullers because I have two little pushers in front of the radiato. I have enclosed all area around the radiator so air only goes through the cooling fins. I am looking for infor on other ways of puling the heat out from the engine comparment. thanks for any info.
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06-29-2014, 04:48 AM
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Please don't think I'm questioning your tech skills, but the first thing that popped into my mind was to ask if your puller is turning in the correct direction. A puller that is actually pushing from the rear toward the front might account for both poor cooling and a rapidly failing fan.
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06-29-2014, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Deluca
I have a Midstates Cobra with a 428 ci motor and C6 trans. Cooling has been an issue since I built this car. I have done multiple changes. Install a aluminium radiator, hig flow water pump, multiple thermostats from 150-195 degree, currently runnign a 165 degree. I have just cooked my 3rd electric fan. The last one I bought was a Spal 16" 2400cfm, all fans have been pullers because I have two little pushers in front of the radiato. I have enclosed all area around the radiator so air only goes through the cooling fins. I am looking for infor on other ways of puling the heat out from the engine comparment. thanks for any info.
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Is your engine getting hot? You really don't state this fact. Frying the electric fan is a different problem than the engine getting hot.
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06-29-2014, 02:41 PM
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Tommy, yes it is moving air in the right direction. It is pulling through the radiator.
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06-29-2014, 02:48 PM
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Hay Joyridn, thanks for the reply, When the fan was running my temp gauge would read between 160 and 180. Yesterday when I realized I had a problem the outside temp was 89 degrees and temp gauge was reading 230 when stopped at a light. I was able to get it down to 190-200 while on the e-way. Did some looking to day connected a 12V source directly to fan and it ran. Checked power and was getting approx 12V to fan connection, tracked it down to a bad relay, acutely plastic was melted on relay. I think I need to still fine a way to cool engine compartment down.
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06-29-2014, 03:13 PM
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I think I will try to find a now mounting place for relay.
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06-29-2014, 04:27 PM
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Over the years I've expiremented with at least 6 after\market electric fans and while some were better than others, none can hold a candle to a factory/OEM fan......
Get one from a 2000/2008 Ford Taurus or Mustang GT and you'll be done with it..........
The best after market fan will only be 1/2 as good as either of these fans and you can get them most anywhere........
David
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06-29-2014, 07:58 PM
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Agree with David. I had a Taurus fan in my car. They are 2 speeds and the high speed flows like 4000 cfm. They are designed for a 130 amp alternator though.
Have you checked other sources that may be causing the engine to get hot? Head gaskets?
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06-30-2014, 06:28 AM
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Mike, here is what you need to solve your heating problems.
One Ford Taurus Electric Fan - Dorman OE Radiator fan assembly no.620-101 $88.11 (new) on Amazon.com.
Mark VIII Relay Kit -2-speed fan ( Mark VIII Fand Relay Kits) Manual set up $73.86 Basic kit.
713 937-0387
He can build you a relay kit to work off of engine temp. requirements too.
This puller fan will solve your heating problems if all other systems are good.
Bill
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06-30-2014, 10:25 AM
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Wires getting hot is not the same as engine running hot. You need to find out why you are cooking your fan or relay wiring. Take a look at the wiring by tracing it out and compare to the diagram. I would bet your multi-fan system is pulling too much current for your wire size you used.
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