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Post By albanycobra
05-13-2015, 09:10 PM
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Which oil pan for SBF?
If you're using an SBF engine in your Cobra replica, what oil pan / sump are you using?
The PACE manual specifies a maximum sump depth for a Ford Windsor of 7½"
Aviaid do one at 7½" deep (p/no. 155-55350) but that's getting up out of the 'normal' price range.
CANTON's 289/302 Road Race Oil Pan (p/no. 15-630S) is too deep at 8" although its description is "....designed for Cobra kit cars"
Just found Milodon's Road Race Oil Pan (p/no. 31600) (7½" deep)
Any recommendations?
Cheers,
Glen
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05-14-2015, 02:01 AM
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Glen,
I think it would depend mostly on what you are going to use the Cobra for. If you are going to road race it go for one of the road race pans as they have baffles in them to keep the oil from splashing away from the pickup. I use an Aviviad 8 quart one on mine but I raced it. If you aren't going to run the car hard and don't have enough clearance from the ground I would think that you could use any pan that fits a 289/302, even a stock one if it doesn't hang down to low. Just be sure to check the reading on your dipstick before you close it all up as you may have to make a new mark on it. When mine is full with the cooler and remote filter it takes 10 quarts and I had to mark my dipstick where the full was.
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05-14-2015, 06:11 AM
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I am currently using the Canton. Paint does not like it, but it is very sturdy and I have had no problems over the past ten or more years of use.
I also plan to use this same one on my new project.
Hope this helps.
Tru
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05-14-2015, 08:07 AM
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"Paint does not like it". ?????
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05-14-2015, 09:53 AM
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Armando's Oil Pans makes a road race pan that replicates the original pans. I ran one of these on my original engine in my ERA 289 FIA. They look pretty cool, being kicked out on the sides front to back with rounded sides just like the original racing engines for the Cobras. Here's the link: Road race oil pan
A little steep at $480.
When I sold my old engine I pulled and kept the Armando pan. It's filthy, but can be cleaned up. If interested, make me an offer.
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05-14-2015, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug
....When I sold my old engine I pulled and kept the Armando pan. It's filthy, but can be cleaned up. If interested, make me an offer.
DD
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Hi Doug. I might be interested. So - filthy, but in otherwise good condition? Any dents etc? My main criterion is (apart from it not leaking ) is that it must not be any deeper than 7½".
Do you recall the Armando part number for yours? If it's 401 or 406....might be OK.
Tru,
Was keen on the Canton, but it's 8" deep, so it would protrude too low.
Ron,
Yes Aviaid would be good, but trying to make myself fell like I'm keeping the budget under control.
Cheers,
Glen
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05-14-2015, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xb-60
... but trying to make myself fell like I'm keeping the budget under control...
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We all start out that way
the most important thing is that the sump has some gates or other controls to keep the oil around the pick-up.
the gates in mine were welded in post purchase - I think that as long as you have the depth and oil control you will have covered the critical issues.
LB
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05-14-2015, 09:34 PM
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....the most important thing is that the sump has some gates or other controls to keep the oil around the pick-up....
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Agreed, Michael. Oil control is very important.
Also up there is if my manufacturer says "the recommended maximum sump( oil pan) height is 7.5” ", I take notice. I don't want the pan to be the first thing that hits.
In fact, if nothing hits, that's even better
Cheers,
Glen
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05-14-2015, 10:44 PM
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Make sure you get the pick up as well.
I would wait till I have the car before buying an oil pan. Other things to think about like starter location and if it's a forward or rearward pan. Drop motor in car ,check all your clearances then buy.
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05-15-2015, 03:47 AM
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Just a suggestion but I use it on mine. I have a steel plate that comes down in front of the pan and curves back under it so that if I should hit something the plate will take the force and not the pan. But that would depend on your clearance and if you have a place to mount the plate.
Ron
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05-15-2015, 04:25 AM
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Quote:
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Armando's Oil Pans makes a road race pan that replicates the original pans. I ran one of these on my original engine in my ERA 289 FIA.....
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Doug....PM sent
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05-15-2015, 04:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron61
Just a suggestion but I use it on mine. I have a steel plate that comes down in front of the pan and curves back under it so that if I should hit something the plate will take the force and not the pan. But that would depend on your clearance and if you have a place to mount the plate.
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If I have room Ron, I will do that. Makes good sense.
Cheers,
Glen
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05-15-2015, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug
Armando's Oil Pans makes a road race pan that replicates the original pans. I ran one of these on my original engine in my ERA 289 FIA. They look pretty cool, being kicked out on the sides front to back with rounded sides just like the original racing engines for the Cobras. Here's the link: Road race oil pan
A little steep at $480.
When I sold my old engine I pulled and kept the Armando pan. It's filthy, but can be cleaned up. If interested, make me an offer.
DD
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They are really fine. Anybody looking for a pan should consider themselves lucky to find a used one at less than retail.
Z
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