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Post By Guitardave
08-06-2013, 03:45 PM
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Location: Plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR, Coyote 5.0 (Sold to Justin in Burleson) working on #2
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Title Registration issue - Need some help!
Tx DMV is saying they cannot title my Backdraft due to the manufacturer "is not NHTSA approved"
Here's the backstory.
Back on July 10th I went to the Collin County tax office in Frisco to register the car. (as a 65 replica) Everything went smooth. They issued a window sticker, set up my custom plate application, issued a paper plate, and took my payment. I had also had the safety inspection done at the DMV waiver office in Plano.
I get a call from the Frisco tax office saying to come pick up all your original paperwork and go to the regional DOT office in Carrollton and work it out.
Before I go to Carrollton, can anyone tell me if they have run into this before and offer any advice. I am guessing someone in the title department is not familiar with kit cars and we will be able to work this out. I want to get this done in one trip, so if you can give me any guidance, I would appreciate it.
Mike
PS; I tried to explain to them (Frisco, tax office) there are numerous Backdrafts, FFR's, Superformance, etc cars already registered in TX, but it's out of their hands.
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08-06-2013, 08:24 PM
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Location: No city...only 118 residents in Manter,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Auto Works body, Ron Godell Racecars chassis, 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 HO (converted to carb), W/C T-5, 3.73's in a Ford 9" Traction-Loc.
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Please keep us posted on the developments with your dilema. I had heard from some reliable sources that the DVM was going to be cracking down on replicas...hope this works out for you!
Have you looked in the registration forum? Try this:
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/registration-forum/
From what I understand, the FIRST step you take is to get your insurance card written with the year and make of car you want the title to say...then you take it to be inspected and make sure the inspection report specifies year/make exactly as the insurance card....then you take all that to the county courthouse to apply for the title, along with all your receipts...this is the first I've heard of the issue you've encountered.
Cheers!
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Last edited by YerDugliness; 08-06-2013 at 08:29 PM..
Reason: add link to registration forum
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08-06-2013, 09:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Grand Prairie,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LS427 #700, 418W Stroker, Speed Demon 750 Mechanical, TKO 600 (.64), Steeda Tri-Ax STS, Currie Nodular 9" (3.50), Tru Trac, 17" Kumho Ecsta XS
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Mike:
Greg started a good post on Registration in Texas on 6/18/13. Dave O laid out a nice description of what is needed.
Check out the details and it should help you gather the needed info to make one trip.
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08-07-2013, 09:17 AM
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Do a search but in a nutshell. Is it a new backdraft? If so it should be titled in the year it was built as an assembled vehicle. In other words a 2013 assmebled vehicle and under remarks it says 1965 replica. Same process as if you pieced together a farm truck and was getting it titled or a box truck. Nobody is out to get replica's.
You are the assembled, you cordinated the chassis and engine installation. texas is very easy. dont make it hard.
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Originally Posted by BDR1222
Tx DMV is saying they cannot title my Backdraft due to the manufacturer "is not NHTSA approved"
Here's the backstory.
Back on July 10th I went to the Collin County tax office in Frisco to register the car. (as a 65 replica) Everything went smooth. They issued a window sticker, set up my custom plate application, issued a paper plate, and took my payment. I had also had the safety inspection done at the DMV waiver office in Plano.
I get a call from the Frisco tax office saying to come pick up all your original paperwork and go to the regional DOT office in Carrollton and work it out.
Before I go to Carrollton, can anyone tell me if they have run into this before and offer any advice. I am guessing someone in the title department is not familiar with kit cars and we will be able to work this out. I want to get this done in one trip, so if you can give me any guidance, I would appreciate it.
Mike
PS; I tried to explain to them (Frisco, tax office) there are numerous Backdrafts, FFR's, Superformance, etc cars already registered in TX, but it's out of their hands.
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08-07-2013, 11:47 AM
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Location: Waxahachie,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIV, 331 Stroker
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Read my earlier posts on what worked for me in Ellis County. It really does depend a lot on the person you talk to. The Waiver Office here told me they didn't do these inspections any more and referred me to the new Street Rod/Custom Vehicle process on the DMV website. That's what I did and went to an ASE certified technician for the inspection. Also I think it was a help to take a copy of the DMV bulletin with me to the tax office and pointed out the process if followed and then gave them all the paperwork noted in the bulletin.
Good luck.
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08-07-2013, 02:07 PM
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Location: Dallas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR track car, SL-C track car
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave O
take a copy of the DMV bulletin with me to the tax office and pointed out the process if followed and then gave them all the paperwork noted in the bulletin.
Good luck.
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What Dave said.
The Richardson office did mine, it was the first one that they had done, but now they know a little bit about it. They were friendly and willing to learn. Plus they loved the car!
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08-08-2013, 10:43 AM
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Having tagged several old cars with year-of-manufacture plates, I can tell you that those people in Carrollton REALLY REALLY know their stuff. Bring crisp, sharp xerox copies of everything (they will scan it all into their databases).
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08-08-2013, 11:14 AM
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Location: Jonesboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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In AR, I could not get an ANTIQUE plate but got a STREET ROD plate and it it titled as 1965 Roadster. My car was bought new by me in Nov. 2010.
Good luck.
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09-04-2013, 02:16 PM
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hello I just got the bad news on my cobra they said it was not on the list
any help to resolve this would be great cobra is a classic carriages from florida
have all original paper work
thanks JAVIER
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09-14-2013, 02:22 PM
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Location: Cleburne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #759, Roush 342R
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Here is a link to the motor vehicle title manual.
https://ftp.txdmv.gov/pub/txdot-info...l_book_451.pdf
Of particular note to cobra owners is chapter 25. You are not trying to register a homemade vehicle as described in 25.13 you are trying to register a replica as described in 25.14 It seems to me that the homemade paragraph is causing the problem...
Finding a competent clerk that can understand the difference between replica and homemade.
I think having a copy of the manual with you and all relevant papers (MCO if built new, photos of your car as well as photos of original shelby proving replica status etc.)
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09-14-2013, 02:40 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #759, Roush 342R
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also in section 25-13, if the vehicle was used and came from out of state, all you need is a out of state vehicle identification certificate (VI-30) issued by state appointed safety inspection station.
Similarly a purchase of a used registered vehicle within the state should be a simple title transfer.
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09-14-2013, 02:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #759, Roush 342R
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09-14-2013, 02:54 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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Where's Marshal Dillon when you need him?
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