SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR

Go Back   Club Cobra > Club Cobra Tech Areas > Transmission Talk

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
January 2025
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31  

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree2Likes
  • 2 Post By blykins

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 10:29 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: sandusky, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 427 s/o
Posts: 80
Not Ranked     
Default manual trans

I'm looking to get a manual trans for my cobra build but i'm not sure on which one to get. I'm looking at a 5 speed or a 6 speed trans that can handle a 427 S/O that puts out around 550 horse and 550 ft/lbs of torque. I'm not drag racing or doing road racing with it just cruising and maybe getting on it once in awhile. Any thoughs on what trans to go with would help thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 10:32 AM
cobrakiwi's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Charlottesville, va
Cobra Make, Engine: Coombe, Shelby Block 496
Posts: 1,187
Not Ranked     
Default

Tko 600
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 10:52 AM
flaflier's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Orlando, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA154 427 HR
Posts: 206
Not Ranked     
Default

+2 Tremec TKO 600 - 5th based on your rear gear, I have the .82

Jim
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 11:44 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: sandusky, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 427 s/o
Posts: 80
Not Ranked     
Default

the rear end gear is a 370, is the tko 600 with the 5th gear 0.82 better or the 0.68
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 12:07 PM
cobrakiwi's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Charlottesville, va
Cobra Make, Engine: Coombe, Shelby Block 496
Posts: 1,187
Not Ranked     
Default

I would go with the .64 if you are not going to be doing any racing.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 12:36 PM
Clois Harlan's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Broken Arrow. OK ( South Tulsa), USA, OK
Cobra Make, Engine: 66 COBRA FE 427 /4SP. (HCS Coupe w/ 408 Stroker and TKO 600 -sold)
Posts: 5,595
Send a message via AIM to Clois Harlan
Not Ranked     
Default

If you are just crusing and NOT ROAD RACING ON LONG COURSES such as Road America, Road Atlanta, etc. then I would suggest the .68 5th gear. I just switched my gears from 3.70 to 3.5 in my coupe because I do want to put it on a road course. I am running a TKO 600 with .82 5th gear. I had a .68 5th gear I was running in my tko 3550 and when I was at Texas World Speedway (near College Station) the long straight-a-way needed the .82 5th gear. And yes my Cobra is a FE 427 C.O. with about 550 HP or so I the 3550 works great.

Clois
__________________
Sunshine, Asphalt and no stop signs...Perfect

"Let's roll"

"Be part of Something Good
......Leave Something Good Behind!"
from CD "Long Road Out of Eden"
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 05:13 PM
bobcowan's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, supercharged Coyote
Posts: 2,450
Not Ranked     
Default

The TKO is a great trans - been around for a while, and enjoys a good reputation.

It used to be you could get a wider gear ratio spread - mostly meaning a lower first gear - with the high torque rating. But that doesn't appear to be true any longer.

The "Problem" with all the TKO's is that 5th gear is .64. which is a good ratio for highway driving when couple with a 3.55 to 3.75 rear gear. But, 4th is 1.00. It's a big drop from 1.00 to .64 - that equates to something like 1,000 rpm drop. But you're cruising down the highway at a fairly mild 2,400 rpm's (80mph). There are a lot of times on the 2 lane highways I wished I had an intermediate gear.

You can get the .84 5th gear, and you get a much smaller drop in rpm's, easily keeping the engine in the power band as you drive around town and the back roads. But that puts you at around 3,300 rpm's on the highway. IMO, that's too many rpm's for an easy highway cruise.

If I were building again - or I needed a new trans - I would probably get a 6 speed. I would take a serious look at a T-56: 700 ft/lbs of torque, 2.97 1st gear, .74 5th gear, and .50 6th. That would work really well with 3.70 rear gears.

Tremec Transmissions, Technology in Motion

I bet Mike Forte could get you one at a good price - along with all the parts and fasteners you needed, too.
__________________
.boB "Iron Man"
NASA Rocky Mountain TTU #42
www.RacingtheExocet.com
BDR #1642 - Supercharged Coyote, 6 speed Auto
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 06:12 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville, KY
Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
Posts: 9,417
Send a message via AIM to blykins
Not Ranked     
Default

Never been a T-56 fan.....big ole transmissions, heavy, long, and with the engines that guys put in Cobras, a .5 OD puts the cruising rpm in a spot where you get the "buck." In addition, a lot of different situations require modifications to the midplate on the T-56. This involves some machine work so that interference with the clutch fork doesn't occur. There has also been issues with the rear seals and I've had to send out some replacements.

That's what you have to worry about with overdrive transmissions. Most Cobra engines have thumpier cams than usual and they're usually not efficient until around 2000 rpm. If you try to lug the engine below that, you get a bucking sensation while you're cruising.

The TKO 600 is a great transmission and I sell a ton of them. The .82 OD's outsell the .64's because of the reasons I mentioned above.

Mike Forte could probably offer you a good deal, but that guy from B2 Motorsports can offer you a good one too.
flaflier and Jaydee like this.
__________________
Lykins Motorsports, LLC
Custom SBF/Cleveland/FE/385 Series Engines
Street, Road Race, Drag Race, Pulling Truck
www.lykinsmotorsports.com
www.customfordcams.com
brent@lykinsmotorsports.com
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-14-2012, 07:43 PM
joyridin''s Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,695
Not Ranked     
Default

I have a T-56 in my Cobra. I would absolutely recommend NOT going with a 6 speed. Mine has a .54 6th gear. I can run 2200 rpm at 70mph and I have 4.56 rear gears. First gear is maybe 15 mph.

Go with a 5 speed.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy